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Post  Sari on Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:51 am

Hi,
I have seen and analyzed many low set mercury fingers, but one in particular is very, very low. Can I please have advise from anyone who has seen this in the extreme?
I will post pics tomorrow.


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Post  Sari on Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:05 pm

This girl is (13yrs old)



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Post  Sari on Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:39 am

In general the low set pinky has been talked about as showing an absent father? Or maybe parent? Johnny Fincham describes it as an absent father or one which is unusually adoring. Does anyone have other beliefs on it's meaning? The girl in the photo has not had her mother take care of her much, at least in the last five years or so, could this be a reason for the low set pinky? Or has this formed much earlier in her life. I was guessing it would be about the age when the rest of the hand would match in size, like maybe when she was 6 or 7. She is 13 now.
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Post  Patti on Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:20 pm

Hi Sari,
I have a photo somewhere that I took years ago of a woman with an extraordinarily short and low set little finger. She was a short lady and her other fingers were not long like this girl's that you've uploaded.

The right hand in particular, to me, appears to be an abnormality that formed long before birth while the hand was developing.

I would relate it more to physical development and also to emotional development. Possibly very shy and modest about herself and uncomfortable talking with the opposite sex, particularly young boys her age.

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Post  waqar.an on Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:54 pm

hi Sari;

Other features in hand are good and thumb is good and practical shape. Did you noticed any hormonal imbalance? Particularly related to estrogen.

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Post  Sari on Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:19 pm

waqar.an wrote:hi Sari;

Other features in hand are good and thumb is good and practical shape. Did you noticed any hormonal imbalance? Particularly related to estrogen.

Hi,
Thanks, did you mean her hormones? or the mothers? She is only 13 so (pre-puberty still)
I don't know what other issues the mother had apart from alcohol/ maybe drug issues.
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Post  Sari on Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:23 pm

Patti wrote:Hi Sari,
I have a photo somewhere that I took years ago of a woman with an extraordinarily short and low set little finger. She was a short lady and her other fingers were not long like this girl's that you've uploaded.

The right hand in particular, to me, appears to be an abnormality that formed long before birth while the hand was developing.

I would relate it more to physical development and also to emotional development. Possibly very shy and modest about herself and uncomfortable talking with the opposite sex, particularly young boys her age.

Thanks Patti,
I tend to agree with what you say, I am also hoping you are right about this being formed long before birth, mainly because my concern was that she may have been a victim of abuse (again I have no other evidence of this) except that the mother was not 'bonded' with her like most girls might have been. Her head line is seperate and she is not shy but I guess this is still to come.
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Post  Lynn on Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:54 pm

Tho I notice that apparently she isn't shy, I agreed with Patti about "very shy and modest about herself and uncomfortable talking with the opposite sex, particularly young boys her age." and about "physical development and also to emotional development." (physical maybe with regard to reproductive organs).

Sari wrote: mainly because my concern was that she may have been a victim of abuse (again I have no other evidence of this) except that the mother was not 'bonded' with her like most girls might have been. Her head line is seperate
This was also a concern of mine Sari, in fact "abuse?" was the first thing that came into my head when I saw her hands. Given the very low setting and separate head line, plus some other features, suggesting neglect or abuse (not necessarily sexual). This girl has had to grow up early, have an old head on young shoulders. The child having to parent the parent!

She has almost a passion line which is unusual for a girl her age, girdle of venus, apparently long fire finger (apollo) on one hand, and fate line coming from area of via lascivia. She has some 'escapist' tendencies, going off into fantasy land or into her head, which is natural I guess to get away from difficult life situation. I fear some compulsive tendencies, risk-taking, possibly turning to stimulants, confusing love and sex or using sex to get close to people. In a way it might be better if she was shy, I'd be less worried about early promiscuity! But as waqar says, her strong thumb might prevent her allowing others to take advantage of her (and so might her independent head line).

I know Manning says relative finger length is set before birth, yet low set pinky finger often correlates with traumatic events between ages of 8 - 12. In women I relate it more to father issues than mother, fear of abandonment.



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Re: A very Low set pinky

Post  Sari on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:06 pm

Lynn and Patti,
Thank you so much for your imput, I'm glad to know more views from 'real hand readers' because some of these hands I come across have me somewhat worried, but of course I never say too much. I think she grew up putting up a wall around her regarding the lack of love at a young age, but I do believe there was love from the father, he took care of her more, it was only that which made me think this may have been something more unusual, but with what you say, eases my mind.
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Post  Lynn on Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:06 am

Are her parents together or separated? If they are together I would be less worried about her. Good to know that she has her father's love & support. In that case, she is more likely to look for someone like her father when it comes to relationships. At her age is is difficult to say how she will turn out in reaction to her upbringing. I hope she will be OK. :-)

[PS off topic but .....Sari I would like to thank you for the help you give to our members here. You are very generous with the time you spend on doing readings etc. I understand you also did a lot to help the forum when there were some problems over the weekend when I was away. You are a very valuable member of this group ]

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Post  Sari on Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:13 am

[quote="Lynn"]Are her parents together or separated? If they are together I would be less worried about her. Good to know that she has her father's love & support. In that case, she is more likely to look for someone like her father when it comes to relationships. At her age is is difficult to say how she will turn out in reaction to her upbringing. I hope she will be OK. :-)

Thanks Lynn,
Regarding the girls parents, they are divorced (about a year and a half ago). But apparently it was the mother's behaviour which split the marriage. I think she has gotten used to having no mother figure and seems to be coping well. I hope she does ok too. I was worried because of the severity of the setting of the mercury and not sure what to say without 'accusing' anyone of anything. I really appreciate your input.
and re the other issue, I really enjoy this forum and I don't want it tarnished just like you and many others, pleased to help.
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Post  waqar.an on Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:39 am

Sari wrote:Hi,
Thanks, did you mean her hormones? or the mothers? She is only 13 so (pre-puberty still)
I don't know what other issues the mother had apart from alcohol/ maybe drug issues.
I mean her hormones. I know a couple having girl and she is receiving treatment for estrogen since she was two year of age. She has low set pinky in both hands.

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Post  Sari on Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:24 am

Thanks Waqar,
No she hasn't been treated for any health issue. Only thing I noticed with her is that she has some learning difficulties (english mainly) spelling and pronounciation of words. I guess with the mercury being communication, this would affect her also, .. struggling with reading and writing etc.. Thanks for your imput, I wouldn't have thought of that otherwise.
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Post  waqar.an on Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:46 am

Sari wrote:Thanks Waqar,
No she hasn't been treated for any health issue. Only thing I noticed with her is that she has some learning difficulties (english mainly) spelling and pronounciation of words. I guess with the mercury being communication, this would affect her also, .. struggling with reading and writing etc.. Thanks for your imput, I wouldn't have thought of that otherwise.
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hi Sari;
Good to know that. Spellings can be easily learned when words are pictured in head. For children if you add different color to each alphabet being pictured in head, it make spelling interesting and fun for them.

Pronunciation is just learning to copy the sound of vowels.

Reading visually is way better and faster than auditory reading. Just shut internal dialogues and reciting.

Writing depends upon imagination which depends upon reading, observation, logic and many other things including intent to contribute.

NLP offer wonderful techniques for children to read, write, spell and pronounce easily and fast as Richard Bandler explains in the following series of videos that attitude is more important and you would find all the ways of doing anything you ever want.


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Post  Parender on Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:30 pm

Sari wrote:Hi,
I have seen and analyzed many low set mercury fingers, but one in particular is very, very low. Can I please have advise from anyone who has seen this in the extreme?
I will post pics tomorrow.


Hi Sari,
There had been a discussion on the topic earlier in this forum and the relating link is:

http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t565-low-set-or-short-little-finger

Besides me others have also expressed their views there.I mentioned there like this:


Low-set or short little finger reduces the self-worth in a person especially if there are lowest rank Arch type finger patterns on tip of the finger. If you could save your self esteem you can achieve anything. In women generally this finger is found a bit shorter than men.

To the palmist, the little finger (Finger of Mercury) is vital in this connection. We could call it truly the ‘messenger of love’ since it represents the individual’s ability to communicate, especially with the opposite sex. I associate it with the sexual glands and the ‘speech center’ or communication skill of a person.

A very short and pointed little finger on a woman’ hand shows who has underdeveloped uterus, is often very rigid, and has a low sex drive especially when Mount of Venus is found underdeveloped, flabby or thin.
I think this will help you understands the psychology of the child in proper way.
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Post  Sari on Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:20 pm

Thank you Parender,
I will look up the other posts, I was mainly concerned why this has happened on this child, I realize there are many personality and communication issues which come up from this, but it is as if she was not born with low set pinky (or was she, we will never know?) So in my opinion this happened as she was growing up and still at a young age due to her upbringing or lack of something.
Thanks for the link.
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Post  Patti on Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:45 pm

Sari wrote:Thank you Parender,
I will look up the other posts, I was mainly concerned why this has happened on this child, I realize there are many personality and communication issues which come up from this, but it is as if she was not born with low set pinky (or was she, we will never know?) So in my opinion this happened as she was growing up and still at a young age due to her upbringing or lack of something.
Thanks for the link.
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Hi Sari,
I would think for this to have developed after birth, it would have been caused by a physical injury which doesn't appear to be the case. The entire percussion side is shorter and out of proportion with the rest of the hand. This shortness involves more than body language or how the hand and fingers are positioned, it is involving the entire structure - the length of the bones in the fingers as well as the palm.

Lynn mentions that it may happen in the pre-teen and early teen years which would then relate to bone growth. If this is so, then it would seemingly have to be some kind of severe emotional/physical/mental trauma that would possibly cause the hand to grow with such disproportion. In that sense, it also would appear to be stunted in growth.

I would think some other part of the body would have to reflect this same lack of full growth or development. Is she built with noticibly wider shoulders than hips? What about her little toes?

Thanks Sari for sharing this young girl's hands for discussion!

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Post  Sari on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:15 pm

Thanks Patti,
The girls shoulders and hips seem normal but her toes are very long like her fingers and her knees appear very flexible, her feet are somewhat abnormal in the way she walks with her feet (toes) towards each other and not straight, do you know what I mean by that? Her brain has development problems, now 13 and still she cannot pronounce simple words like spaghetti, she says pasgetti etc. and she has failed English right up to now at school.

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Post  Patti on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:48 am

I think it's called pidgeon toed when you walk with your toes facing inwards.

Don't know what part of the leg or foot causes the foot to turn inward when walking.

Interesting that her little toes are not also demonstrating this quality.

The little finger is also related to the ears, called the auricular finger. Has she had her tonsils or adenoids checked? Does she hear okay, seem alert or seem to be in her own space until you speak loud enough to get her attention?
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Post  Sari on Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:35 am

Re: little toes,
Sorry I don't know if she has low set little toe, I will find out, only thing I noticed was long thin toes. (Oh and yes, pidgeon toed, that was the one I was trying to describe,..lol)
And I will see about the hearing, I'm not aware of a problem there.
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Post  Sari on Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:11 am

Hi again Patti,

Just to let you know, I got to see the girls little toes, and yes, they are very low set too!

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Post  RishiRahul on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:02 pm

Parender wrote:
Sari wrote:Hi,
I have seen and analyzed many low set mercury fingers, but one in particular is very, very low. Can I please have advise from anyone who has seen this in the extreme?
I will post pics tomorrow.


Hi Sari,
There had been a discussion on the topic earlier in this forum and the relating link is:

http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t565-low-set-or-short-little-finger

Besides me others have also expressed their views there.I mentioned there like this:


Low-set or short little finger reduces the self-worth in a person especially if there are lowest rank Arch type finger patterns on tip of the finger. If you could save your self esteem you can achieve anything. In women generally this finger is found a bit shorter than men.

To the palmist, the little finger (Finger of Mercury) is vital in this connection. We could call it truly the ‘messenger of love’ since it represents the individual’s ability to communicate, especially with the opposite sex. I associate it with the sexual glands and the ‘speech center’ or communication skill of a person.

A very short and pointed little finger on a woman’ hand shows who has underdeveloped uterus, is often very rigid, and has a low sex drive especially when Mount of Venus is found underdeveloped, flabby or thin.
I think this will help you understands the psychology of the child in proper way.
Parender


Hi,

I agree with Prendar.

A low set pinky lowers self esteem; and a very low set one lowers it very much. Such people have weak communication skills, even in sex.
This makes communicating for them very inadequate to their own liking/expression; and also leads to be instinctual with impatience ruling; for which silly mistakes can result in life.

Additiionally the given palm has unattached life and head line with the head line drooping to the upper developed moon area. This confirms foolhardiness and moodiness.

The thumb type does not support a good homemaker, though she could be organised (but its too early to confirm this); Spacing of fingers do not show a person constrained in giving too much emotions to others.

Age 28 to age 40 can be difficult in terms of emotional/love life and needs to handled with care.

What is her birth date, month and year? This can be a good numerology study for me.

Certainly her mercury is weak and or afflicted.

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Post  pravin kumar on Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:10 am

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Welcome to this forum. If you see the palms of our Ex-Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, who was an excellent orator, you will find his pinky finger is low set. Such people have weak communication skills and even in sex. In his case he was a bachelor but certainly not weak communication skills. His palm pictures are posted in "Indianpalmistryforum.

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Post  RishiRahul on Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:34 am

pravin kumar wrote:Rishiji,

Welcome to this forum. If you see the palms of our Ex-Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, who was an excellent orator, you will find his pinky finger is low set. Such people have weak communication skills and even in sex. In his case he was a bachelor but certainly not weak communication skills. His palm pictures are posted in "Indianpalmistryforum.

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Hi Pravinji,

I always feel proud to have your welcome!

Yes, I checked the link you mentioned:
http://indianpalmreading.freeforum.me.uk/t293-atal-bihari-vajpayee

You will note, if you enlarge/zoom the photo, that the pinky finger is bent forward (shrewdness of a politician). The pinky finger is, at least, of normal size.

Is it actually low set? The picture is not very clear I know.
Use picassa to enlarge and fill colours etc to see it better.

His mercury mount is quite full and strong.

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Post  Sari on Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:07 am

RishiRahul wrote:
pravin kumar wrote:Rishiji,

Welcome to this forum. If you see the palms of our Ex-Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, who was an excellent orator, you will find his pinky finger is low set. Such people have weak communication skills and even in sex. In his case he was a bachelor but certainly not weak communication skills. His palm pictures are posted in "Indianpalmistryforum.

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Hi Pravinji,

I always feel proud to have your welcome!

Yes, I checked the link you mentioned:
http://indianpalmreading.freeforum.me.uk/t293-atal-bihari-vajpayee

You will note, if you enlarge/zoom the photo, that the pinky finger is bent forward (shrewdness of a politician). The pinky finger is, at least, of normal size.

Is it actually low set? The picture is not very clear I know.
Use picassa to enlarge and fill colours etc to see it better.

His mercury mount is quite full and strong.

RishiRahul
I understand the various meanings and problems that come with low set pinky, there are many different personality faults such as communication and sexual problems....but my question was, why does this occur? It has been noted that it can be because the father was not present or that the person had been treated in an excessively adored way by the father such as sexual abuse. I also have a low set pinky, but not in excess, I know my reasons for this regarding my father, and the issues I have regarding communication but i wonder about others when this pinky is excessively low set.

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