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Post  Manfred on Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:00 am

Hi,
does anyone have experience with multiple sclerosis and it's patterns, line formations or marks in the palm?
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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  jeanette on Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:41 am

Hi Manfred,
Johnny Fincham says hand tremors and an island in the head line. I also think I remember reading the island is a large island at the start of the head line.
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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Manfred on Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:00 pm

Thank you Jeanette,
yesterday I had an client with a beginning MS, but she didn't had never tremors nor an island. Very significant was a Girdle of Venus in both, even more a deeper and in full length in the right hand. The right thumb was a little bit clubbed, what I know from Parcinson desease. - When I'Il know more, I'll write here note.
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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Patti on Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:02 pm

Manfred wrote:Hi,
does anyone have experience with multiple sclerosis and it's patterns, line formations or marks in the palm?
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I have a couple of prints of people with MS.

One had several 'nature' or ulnar loops on the percussion of one hand which I thought was remarkable.

I don't recall unusual features on the second. I'll look for the prints when I have a chance.
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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Sari on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:06 pm

Hi,
This is interesting because the few people I know with MS, were actually born with the disease, so I have never known this to become a disease with age?? maybe I should google it? I knew a guy who had it and by the time he was 17, he committed suicide due to the fact he couldn't cope with other peoples mean comments and behaviour about his disorder. I also had a friend who gave birth to a baby boy with MS, they told her he would grow up never be able to walk or talk... very sad.
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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Sari on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:14 pm

Hi,
I just googled the MS and discovered it is still under much study and can occur to anyone at anytime. I truly felt sad for the mothers I knew who gave birth to their children knowing that their child could never be normal.. but sad also to discover that this can actually occur later and more so in women?? I found that weird, because the boys I knew with MS weren't women.
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Post  Manfred on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:10 pm

Hi,
my client was a woman od the end 30ies and the doctor talked to her about a year ago that she has MS. Nearly the same was with another women who got it in her beginning 40ies.

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ps.: I think the island just at the beginning of the head line shows a secondary problem of MS: Problem with the eyes. - Sen talks about a connection of spinal problems and irregularities on the head line under the gab between the Jupiter and Saturn finger Another medical chirologist I know wrote me about some connections with the Girdle of Venus, what I pretend, too.

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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  jeanette on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:13 pm

I did not know that it could be told when a child is born that it has MS. I helped look after a girl who has it and she was diagnosed at 19years old. She was told not to have children as this ascelerated the MS. She had a son and it progressed rapidly. She is now 43yrs old and is in a care home. She can't speak, is peg fed, hands and legs twisted rigid and there is no communication at all. The highest percentage of cases in the world are from the north of Scotland. Until recently it had not been researched much at all. However, the Canadians are researching as they have a high percentage and are finding most of their cases are the descendants of people who emigrated to Canada from the north of Scotland. A couple of years ago when I was still helping look after her we noticed a change in her eyes. Particularly the right one is would go away to the right. The nurses who attended thought this was the MS going over the brain. However, they really did not know as did anyone else as there is very little known about it. Hopefully the Canadians will come up with something.


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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Lynn on Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:15 pm

Sari wrote:Hi,
This is interesting because the few people I know with MS, were actually born with the disease, so I have never known this to become a disease with age?? maybe I should google it? I knew a guy who had it and by the time he was 17, he committed suicide due to the fact he couldn't cope with other peoples mean comments and behaviour about his disorder. I also had a friend who gave birth to a baby boy with MS, they told her he would grow up never be able to walk or talk... very sad.

hi Sari, I didn't know babies could be diagnosed with MS at birth. It is rare in children and difficult to diagnose in infants. Also the prognosis with MS is difficult as it depends on the type of MS, which often isn't known for some time until the person has relapses etc, so I'm not sure how they could tell that the baby would never be able to walk or talk. (?) Forgive me for doubting but I'm just wondering whether by any chance you confused Multiple Sclerosis with Muscular Dystrophy?

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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Lynn on Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:17 pm

PS one of my best friends has MS. I have never taken her hand prints, maybe it's time I did!

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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Sari on Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:07 pm

Hi Lynn,
This baby was diagnosed at about 3 or 4 months of age, it was now seven years ago so I cant remember exact age of the baby, but I remember he was about the size of that age group, so sorry I didn't mean to confuse, he wasn't diagnosed at birth. The lady had him in the hospital being tested at the same time as I was giving birth to one of mine, they did some kind of tests and confirmed that he had it serious enough for them to say he wouldn't walk or be able to talk. Sometimes they are wrong I suppose but I haven't seen her again to find out if the doctors were correct.
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Re: Multiple Sclerosis

Post  Lynn on Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:35 pm

(hope you didn't mind me asking, I wasn't previously aware about MS in babies).
oh dear that is very sad Sari, also tragic about the 17 year old you told us about. :-(

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