connection between hand reading and ADHD and ADD

**orit** on Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:25 am

Helo

I work in findings new topic in hand reading/ and succeddeed to find signs over the
head line to these disorders' which fan observe people who suffer from those problems/
if you have questions' I will be glad to answer
Orit levi

**Ron** on Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:53 am

Hello Orit,

It is good to find a PDC analyst from Israel on this forum. I have been diagnosed with ADHD, and the only field of Hand Analysis which can indicate ADD and ADHD is Psychodiagnostic Chirology. This shows the highest standard and the most scientific form of Hand Analysis.

Welcome to the forum.

**Martijn (admin)** on Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:11 am

orit wrote:Helo

I work in findings new topic in hand reading/ and succeddeed to find signs over the
head line to these disorders' which fan observe people who suffer from those problems/
if you have questions' I will be glad to answer
Orit levi

Hello Orit Levi!

Welcome, and thank you for joining this forum!

It would be very interesting to hear a bit more about the characteristics in the head line that you found as relevant for ADHD/ADD.

For example, I am wondering... is the Sydney line (= extended head line) one of those markers?

wave

**Ron** on Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:15 am

I'm also interested in the Head line linked to ADD/ADHD, because going through my PDC books they only use the addiction lines and the triradii on the Mount of Venus to identify it.

**Martijn (admin)** on Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:18 pm

Ron wrote:Hello Orit,

It is good to find a PDC analyst from Israel on this forum. I have been diagnosed with ADHD, and the only field of Hand Analysis which can indicate ADD and ADHD is Psychodiagnostic Chirology. This shows the highest standard and the most scientific form of Hand Analysis.

Welcome to the forum.

PS. Ron, for your info: as far as I know (Holtzman shared last year more details with me about his registrated students): Orit is probably not a registrated PDC student, so I think you should better avoid to associate her work with PDC.

**Pamelah** on Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:15 pm

Although totally not a diagnosis, the fate line indicates some things about people's attention span. I've discovered over the years of reading hands that people with a 'short attention span' tend to have short fate lines or fate lines broken into pieces. That means to me that they have a short time of desire to focus.

I remember telling one man with this that, as a landscaper, that is a perfect job for him. He can mow a lawn (short focus project), then pull weeds, then look at what needs to be pruned, then prune, and also look at what new plants could be planted for the next seaon. Shopping for plants is a short attention requirement. He gets everything done but in short projects. He felt relieved to know he is designed that way.

**GoodPalmist** on Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:48 am

Hey Ron.

Would it be possible to post images of your palm ?

Thx
GP

**Ron** on Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:12 am

GoodPalmist wrote:Would it be possible to post images of your palm ?

For?

Pamelah wrote:Although totally not a diagnosis, the fate line indicates some things about people's attention span. I've discovered over the years of reading hands that people with a 'short attention span' tend to have short fate lines or fate lines broken into pieces. That means to me that they have a short time of desire to focus.

You must remember Pamelah that ADD and ADHD are development disorders that could either have occurred in gestation or in early infant stages, and does not necessarily linked to short attention spans, but could also be a symptom of it. I am ADHD, my brother is also ADHD and my other borther is ADD and ADHD, but my and my one brother's Saturn/Fate lines are in a perfect condition whereas the other brother has a Saturn/Fate line which has a duplicate and one break in it.

**Pamelah** on Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:26 am

thanks for shring that - I didn't know it was developmental before birth. How does it show up on the patterns of all 3 of you in your family? What markings do you have in common?

**Ron** on Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:14 am

When looking at all our hands, none of us have any common characteristics, which is odd. In Dr. Holtzman's textbook, his indication of ADD and ADHD does not show in all our hands.

**Pamelah** on Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:20 pm

Maybe there are new things being learned about how it shows up in hands. It's a fairly recent diagnoses term.

**Martijn (admin)** on Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:28 pm

... I would like to add a few relevant points that have been pointed out in various scientific studies concerning ADHD and various hand characteristics:

- The following study describes how finger length ratios (related to 4 fingers) relate to ADHD: describing significant results for boys, and table 4 suggests that a short index finger in the right hand is likely involved (resulting also in a low 2D:4D digit ratio):
http://psyc.uno.edu/Martel%20lab%20pages/Martel%20et%20al%20%20BN%202008.pdf (2008)

NOTICE: The following study presents an interesting follow-up on the 2008 study: http://psyc.uno.edu/Martel%20lab%20pages/Martel_JCPP_2009.pdf (2009)

- Two studies have pointed out that dermatoglyphic asymmetries (differences between the right- and left hand) are involved as well:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajhb.10179/abstract (2003)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajhb.20507/abstract (2006)

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