Using the hand/palm to make specific predictions

I noticed that a lot of readings I see talk about a person's character and certain general things about one's life, things like there is a change in career or travel but no specifics.

There have been books like Cheiro's and a couple other books like the one with Roosevelt's and Hitler's hand, that predicted certain specific things.

I'm posting this because I was reminded of a classmate/friend of my older brother, whose fate seemed to be predicted quite precisely since a very young age. So this made me wonder again about the age old question of 'are we destined' or we make our own destiny (like many modern palmists argue saying we shape our destiny and our hands change over time), or is it both like I believe Cheiro mentioned, some people's fate are written, some are made as life goes.

Just to give you an idea of my brother's friend's story:

My brother's friend is Chinese, and at a very young age, his mother brought him to a palm reader who I believe also used his birth date. I heard this story when we were very young, and again and again as we grew up because my mom and his mother conversed a lot during parent teacher's meetings as my older brother and his classmate were honor students.

The palmist mentioned that the friend would be the last child she would have, that he isn't meant to have any siblings after him. Sure enough a few years later, his mom got pregnant but has a miscarriage and has had no children after.

She was also told that this child, was massively talented, and was a genius. But that he was not meant to live in our country, but instead in the United States because that is where he will fulfill his greatness. Take note, we live a one of the smaller countries in Asia, and it is by no means a norm during that time that people would go to the US for their careers. It also seemed unlikely since we were in the middle class in a country where the US dollar equivalent was small so schooling in the US and going there wasn't easy to cover.

The other thing he mentioned that he will work for other people all his life, but not to worry, his career will be very secure and that he will have great riches. This was also ironic because, to us, and most Asians, going into business was usually the means to riches and success, since most of the time working for others doesn't pay as well, especially in 3rd world countries.

Long story short, he was through grade school and high school we has always 1st honors. Then got into the the Wharton School in the US, and went to Harvard for his MBA, where he got summa cum laude with perfect GPA and top honors, respectively. His parents didn't have to spend a lot for college because he got a lot of scholarships due to his high grades.

After school, he went and still works for what is considered the top investment bank in wall street. He made partner a few years ago at a very young age, something less than 1% of that firm's employees every get to. And as we've seen over the last decade in wall street there have been a lot of layoffs, and all of the friends he started with from school that went to wall street have been laid off at least once or more times. During these times he kept getting promoted. In the last 5 years his bonus has been ranged from $3 million to $20 million per year, and his bas salary is around $ 1.2 million a year.

There are a few more details that I cant recall right now, like life, marriage, etc. I do know his story well because my brother is pretty much step by step with him, from school and similar career path. He is 34 and will turn 35 on April.

Sorry for the long tale, but going back to my question. Is this an example that 'we are destined' or we make our own destiny like many modern palmists argue saying we shape our destiny and our hands change over time, or is it both like I believe Cheiro mentioned, some people's fate are written, some are made as life goes. And is this type of specific prediction, where you can almost tell many of the important steps/events in life, common?

Nice post jojo. Very interesting story.
I too carry this question. Palm reading is not used for predictions. 'coz, palm lines change. I have seen many examples in books where lines have changed and one in my own case! But, it can also be argued that- you were really destined for this bright/bad future and so the lines changed .

The question of "destiny being fixed" is a open question. When palm readers say, we are the makers of our destiny, they are not telling about destiny in itself, but, about the "free will". You don't have control over the things happening outside, but, you surely have control over how do you react to it. But, again - Is everybody skilled enough to do that? If you're skilled - you're destined to be skilled and if not - you were not destined to be skilled!

If you read psychology, fate/fixed destiny is studied there. People, who have lots of SELF -confidence tend to converse that destiny is in their hands and vice-versa. This can again be argued on the point over - why were some confident and why some weren't!

Instead of answering you, I am leaving you with more confusions, which I carry with myself

Interesting story. If the question really churns your inside, go and study divination in all its forms or choose one and follow it deeply. Myself, I would have gone to that palmist/astrologer (or his descendents/students) to figure out how he does it. From my experience, prediction is rather tricky, for every good story that are many bad ones that go unnoticed, and often they are not specific enough. Nevertheless I believe there are gifted people out there who understand the present very well and its extension - the future. Good luck with your inquiries.

zaobhand wrote:Interesting story. If the question really churns your inside, go and study divination in all its forms or choose one and follow it deeply.

Precisely what I also think the same way.When we study one form of these we make a subjective of all that are aligned.Considering palmistry as the interface we either tilt to astrology,Tarot,Numerology,Yoga,Meditaitons.Or we can tilt to the other side Dematoglyphics,Finger printing,Psychology etc etc.All these are huge subjects to be studied in a lifetime and the interface may shift one or two degrees to the either side.Even encompassing two-three subjects at a time is also a mammoth task in itself.

Raman

jojo400 wrote:

Is this an example that 'we are destined' or we make our own destiny like many modern palmists argue saying we shape our destiny and our hands change over time, or is it both like I believe Cheiro mentioned, some people's fate are written, some are made as life goes. And is this type of specific prediction, where you can almost tell many of the important steps/events in life, common?

Hello Jojo400,

I can relate to your tale and can understand the form of Palmistry prevalent in most parts of Asia.Palmistry as a school of thought is still predictive even today in most parts of Asia.And strangely works fine for the predictive aspects .I have seen some predictions come true years after.Its baffling with no clear explanation how.But the palmist knows for the signs in the palm or what he has been taught .In India palmistry books written even today have predictive aspects.Here interwined are mythology and the sacred texts.Mostly destiny is assumed to be fixed.

Modern western palmisty is more based on character analysis and tilts towards psychology.Since predictive aspects are ruled out a more constructive thought of carving a destiny for yourself is favoured.
I think the choice is with the palmist what is his inclination.

Raman