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Post  kiwihands on Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:19 am

Hi everyone,

I broke my neck 4 weeks ago in a windsurfing accident, which should show on my fate line according to Ed Campbell’s theory. He says in his Encyclopaedia of Palmistry that health problems will show on the Saturn line, which he finds to “represent the central axis of the body.” (p.157) In this system my injury should be marked just above the heart line.

According to other theories that time the lines (age 33), the injury should show on my life line, and on the fate line, indicating possible repercussions in terms of career that may result from not being able to work for some time. (I will eventually make a full recovery, but am told that I can expect ongoing issues with pain etc.)

I can’t really make out any markings that would fit with either system, but maybe that’s because I’m too close to the subject. Can anyone enlighten me?

Here a couple of new pics taken today:
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Post  Patti on Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:20 am

Wow Kiwi!! Just the other day I was thinking of you and how you'd been gone a long time! I tried to remember if you had mentioned some far away exotic trip. I am so sorry to hear your news and wish for you a very speedy and full recovery!

I think you might notice some kind of marking on your nails, just recently growing out at the quick. A deep dent or rising bump horizontally across the nail. Particularly the thumb and/or index finger nails.

In order to place time on your life line I use three markers at the edges of the palm. Could you put up another photo with more palm?

I guess if this were 'destiny' then perhaps there'd be something in the lines to show that at this point in life you were to experience 'something' that influences your perspective of life.

But if it were an 'out of the blue' environmental situation then I think only your emotional and physical reactions would be relevant in regards to markings.

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Post  zaobhand on Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:51 am

Kiwihand wishing you quick recovery! Have you heard of comfrey? They call it the bone-knitting herb. I haven't used it myself but it seems to be well regarded in herbal folklore.
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Post  Kiran.Katawa on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:31 am

Hi Kiwi,

Sorry to hear the news. Wish you a fast, faster and fastest recovery Smile. Take care.
Here are my observations. I have marked in your right hand from 1 to 4.

RIGHT HAND:
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LEFT HAND:
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In your right hand, y ou can see a interference line starting from 2 and cutting the fate line at 3. A parallel line running above it marked as 4 and cutting your bigger fate line at the headline. The first fate line fades and stops after 3. Your life line is thick in between 2 and 1 compared to before 2 and after 1.
My take is: Your this regular activity or career( or direction of your life) might gradually be reduced 'coz of health concern. This injury will have your external lifestyle affected for few years, unless you take a faster recovery. I can't see pearls formation on the skin ridges near this section of life line in the inner mars zone. But, Johnny attributes this( inner Mars zone) area to Bones, joints and ligaments.

In your left hand, however, you can see a falling line at the point at which I have marked. This point approximates corresponds to around 30. Your lifestyle at home might not be significantly affected 'coz of this accident. But, you'll have reduced health stamina.



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Post  Lynn on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:00 am

hi kiwihands, I am so sorry to hear about your accident. It is good to hear that eventually you will make a full recovery. Wishing you well. x

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Post  Patti on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:07 pm

Hi Kiwi,
Here are your palms you uploaded last year for us to use as reference. We have close ups of your palms from then too, for comparison to now.

My thoughts as to what to expect. Still thinking that if it were destiny, the markings would relate to something that altered your direction in life. Old lines ending and new ones beginning or the like. I don't think 'accident' can be foretold. I'd also want to look at what major transits were happening in your astrological chart.

If your hands were to show it as just an out of the blue accident, then I would look as I mentioned above for markings that show your response to your milieu.

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You definitely must be blessed! To break your neck and not only still be alive, but not paralyzed! Very Happy That is very good fortune!
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Post  kiwihands on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:17 am

Hi Patti,

thanks so much for your quick response and your kind wishes. Smile Yes, I have had a 'busy' first quarter of the year with lots of travel, my parents visiting for a month, and then my brother too.

I totally agree about being blessed - SOO grateful to my guardian angel! There was a moment when I thought, that's it, I'm dead. The doctors couldn't believe how lightly I got off, with only one fracture ... normally when people fall on their heads at 50kph they don't walk into A&E. Maybe being a yogi helped, too. Anyways, I feel like I have been given a new life and, though everything is still very much in flux, sense a new facet of my personality emerging as well. That's why I would have expected to find some sort of major change in my lines somewhere ... but perhaps this takes more than a month to show up.

Patti wrote:I think you might notice some kind of marking on your nails, just recently growing out at the quick. A deep dent or rising bump horizontally across the nail. Particularly the thumb and/or index finger nails.

Interesting point: my nails seem to have almost stopped growing since the accident. I'll keep an eye on them ...

Patti wrote:I guess if this were 'destiny' then perhaps there'd be something in the lines to show that at this point in life you were to experience 'something' that influences your perspective of life. [...] Old lines ending and new ones beginning or the like. I don't think 'accident' can be foretold. I'd also want to look at what major transits were happening in your astrological chart.

But if it were an 'out of the blue' environmental situation then I think only your emotional and physical reactions would be relevant in regards to markings.

This is exactly what I was wondering about! I does feel like 'destiny' - had been carrying a vague sense of foreboding for months, and now that's gone. I picked a couple of cards afterwards, and they were Death and The Fool, which to me also indicates a natural development rather than an out-of-the-blue strike. Perhaps one of my fate lines ending roundabouts now is one such indication. Thank you for your illustration of how you figure out timing on the life line! I'll keep this for future reference ...

I read in some books that accidents would show up as stars or indentations or spots on the lines. Can't see any of that. I think you're right with what you say about only my reactions showing in that case.

I'm intrigued now about the astrological aspect - would love it if you could have a look at the major transits when you get a moment. I'll PM you my precise birth details.

Well, whatever it is, and whatever comes from it: I'm aliiive! happy move

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Post  kiwihands on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:23 am

Thanks Zaobhand! Thanks!

zaobhand wrote:Kiwihand wishing you quick recovery! Have you heard of comfrey? They call it the bone-knitting herb. I haven't used it myself but it seems to be well regarded in herbal folklore.

Great tip, and yes I have comfrey tincture. My mum had a whole flask that she had made herself in her travel first aid kit, and she left it with me "just in case." Comfrey doesn't grow here, so it was very lucky! Or maybe she just knows me really well ... not the first time I've broken a bone.
lol!

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Post  zaobhand on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:33 am

kiwihands wrote:Thanks Zaobhand! Thanks!

zaobhand wrote:Kiwihand wishing you quick recovery! Have you heard of comfrey? They call it the bone-knitting herb. I haven't used it myself but it seems to be well regarded in herbal folklore.

Great tip, and yes I have comfrey tincture. My mum had a whole flask that she had made herself in her travel first aid kit, and she left it with me "just in case." Comfrey doesn't grow here, so it was very lucky! Or maybe she just knows me really well ... not the first time I've broken a bone.
lol!

Cheers

You are most welcome. Smile

Here are links to few more options, just in case.
http://www.herballegacy.com/Broken_Bones.html
http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/strongbones.html#More_Information ( I was told that eucommia bark is great for healing bones and ligaments).

Unintentionally I healed a chronic knee problem that I had for many years after improving my nutrition. Can share pm my experiences in case you'd like to explore for the healing period.
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Post  kiwihands on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:44 am

Hi Kiran,

thank you for your kind wishes. Smile It makes such a difference to know that there are people out there who think of me with healing thoughts! Thanks also for your elaborations and the clear illustrations of how you see the timing. This is the area of palmistry I am still most mystified by...

Kiran.Katawa wrote:In your right hand, y ou can see a interference line starting from 2 and cutting the fate line at 3. A parallel line running above it marked as 4 and cutting your bigger fate line at the headline. The first fate line fades and stops after 3. Your life line is thick in between 2 and 1 compared to before 2 and after 1.
My take is: Your this regular activity or career( or direction of your life) might gradually be reduced 'coz of health concern. This injury will have your external lifestyle affected for few years, unless you take a faster recovery. I can't see pearls formation on the skin ridges near this section of life line in the inner mars zone. But, Johnny attributes this( inner Mars zone) area to Bones, joints and ligaments.

Interesting point about the interference lines! I may have the wrong idea about them: thought that they represent influences from home life, friends and family. So I didn't even consider them in terms of the accident because it had nothing to do with anyone but me and my own reckless risk-taking. Would be keen to hear what other readers think about the role of those influence lines?

Kiran.Katawa wrote:In your left hand, however, you can see a falling line at the point at which I have marked. This point approximates corresponds to around 30. Your lifestyle at home might not be significantly affected 'coz of this accident. But, you'll have reduced health stamina.

Again I may have the wrong idea about these falling lines (please correct me, anyone, if I got this wrong): thought that falling lines on the inside of the life line indicated a loss of energy, but if they were departing from the outside, it was more like an attempt at expansion, even if unsuccessful? At the point that you indicated there is indeed a faint line heading off and dropping on the outside, but during that period the life line itself is clearer and deeper than at any other time. So I didn't read this as a reduction of health stamina ... ?

Yes, my home lifestyle will be back to normal once the brace comes off ... but for now it's affected in a fun way as I never have to do dishes or any housework, haha. Smile

Thanks again for your time Kiran, really appreciate it.

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Post  kiwihands on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:51 am

zaobhand wrote:You are most welcome. Smile

Here are links to few more options, just in case.
http://www.herballegacy.com/Broken_Bones.html
http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/strongbones.html#More_Information ( I was told that eucommia bark is great for healing bones and ligaments).

Unintentionally I healed a chronic knee problem that I had for many years after improving my nutrition. Can share pm my experiences in case you'd like to explore for the healing period.

Thanks again! Hadn't heard of Eucommia bark, I'll see if I can get it here. I'm willing to give anything a go to prove the doctors wrong with their gloomy predictions of ongoing pain etc. So I have been looking but a bit overwhelmed by all the different options. It'll be great to hear some first-hand experiences, please do PM me with any tips that work!

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Post  kiwihands on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:54 am

Lynn wrote:hi kiwihands, I am so sorry to hear about your accident. It is good to hear that eventually you will make a full recovery. Wishing you well. x

Thanks Lynn! It means a lot to me to get such kind well-wishes. Smile

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Post  zaobhand on Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:10 am

kiwihands wrote:
zaobhand wrote:You are most welcome. Smile

Here are links to few more options, just in case.
http://www.herballegacy.com/Broken_Bones.html
http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/strongbones.html#More_Information ( I was told that eucommia bark is great for healing bones and ligaments).

Unintentionally I healed a chronic knee problem that I had for many years after improving my nutrition. Can share pm my experiences in case you'd like to explore for the healing period.

Thanks again! Hadn't heard of Eucommia bark, I'll see if I can get it here. I'm willing to give anything a go to prove the doctors wrong with their gloomy predictions of ongoing pain etc. So I have been looking but a bit overwhelmed by all the different options. It'll be great to hear some first-hand experiences, please do PM me with any tips that work!

Thanks!

Yogi's (and sportsmen in general) heal much faster. Don't heed to these gloomy doctors! Another important aspect of healing bones is silica. Horsetail for example is abundant with silica. See this article, for example. http://www.evolutionhealth.com/Minerals/Silica-osteoporosis.html I gave some to my mom and the doctors were happy with the progress of her hip healing.

Krishnamacharya broke his hip when he was 96 years. The doctors were very dreary, and told him he would not be able to walk. Krishnamacharya got tired of them and their prognosis and decided to heal himself through yoga. The doctors were amazed after a year. I can't recall 100% the details of this story, but you can read about it in his son, Desikechar's book.
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Post  Kiran.Katawa on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:02 am

Hi Kiwi,
the interference line is starting from the life line itself. So, it indicates that something to do with "health/homelifefamily and friends" would affect you. And life line gets thicker at this juncture. However, am not sure of the timings.

About left hand: I didn't know about dropping lines inside/outside have different meanings. But, the one you're saying, where the life line gets stronger is still lower. I have marked a one which is above it. And from that point onwards, the strength of life line is getting reduced. But, am not sure of timings. I am just trying to co-relate to what has happened to you.
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Post  kiwihands on Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:20 pm

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Hi Kiwi,
the interference line is starting from the life line itself. So, it indicates that something to do with "health/homelifefamily and friends" would affect you. And life line gets thicker at this juncture. However, am not sure of the timings.

About left hand: I didn't know about dropping lines inside/outside have different meanings. But, the one you're saying, where the life line gets stronger is still lower. I have marked a one which is above it. And from that point onwards, the strength of life line is getting reduced. But, am not sure of timings. I am just trying to co-relate to what has happened to you.

Thanks for your elaboration Kiran! I appreciate your time - am still a beginner myself so I always like to ask tricky questions to enable me to learn.
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Post  Kiran.Katawa on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:51 am

You're welcome Kiwi. Take care.
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Post  Manfred on Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:24 am

Hy Kiwihands,

I'm very sorry to hear from your injury and I'm hoping that you'll recover soon. - If you would you like to send me your birth datas and that of the exact time (and place) of the accident, than I'll do for you the accident chart.

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