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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  great-palmist on Sat May 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Sorry and thanks. i am not great just i love to stick with basics. You can create strong building if the base is strong. so i suggest all palmists to stick with basics,you can call lines with many different names but properties will be same, soon to help you guys i will post some important basic knowledge that is gained by my experinces not from any books so it will help you guys

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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  zaobhand on Sat May 19, 2012 5:07 pm

You are welcome. I've studied astrology on my own, pretty intensively aside from my main job, for some 7 years, felt rather frustrated with current state of affairs in Vedic astrology, then studied with a teacher in India for 5 months. I asked you because I wanted us to be specific on the basics. There are various schools out there, and you probably know how complicated things can be.
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  great-palmist on Sat May 19, 2012 5:13 pm

I can underatand what you meant. No teacher oe book will tell you secrets of this science as they want to be superior over others. For to help you its very important you know properties of signs,planets, houses and lines and basic concept of palmistry is enough to start with

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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  zaobhand on Sat May 19, 2012 5:15 pm

I look forward to your future posts on astropalmistry. I will try to contribute as far as my knowledge and understandings go. Btw, there is a facebook group on astropalmistry that you may find interesting.
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  great-palmist on Sat May 19, 2012 5:19 pm

Ok i will see the facebool page thanks and would love to get contribution from your side

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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  dhundhun on Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:23 am

Deleting.
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School of Indian Palmistry

Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:55 pm

Respected all the members of Group

All are free to say any things but when I ask about the authenticity nobody including Late palmists of India and western country are able to put it.
Actually it become fashion to sell out any garbage in the name of Holy Ved and ancient Indology.
I have found during my research some system
Shaiv Samudik Paddhati (System)
Jain Samudik Paddhati (System)
Katikeyan Paddhati (System)
Buaddh Paddhati (System)
and Folk paddhati it is derived from mouth to mouth in generations
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:34 pm


Interesting post mister Upendrasingh Bhadoriya! Thumbs up!

I am familiar with the Karthikeyan system, but I would welcome you to elaborate by describing some of the differences between these 5 vedic systems. Hopefully you are somehow able to meet this request?

Anyway, thank you for your input so far!


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What are the Major schools of Vedic Palmistry

Post  nishaghai on Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:19 am

dhundhun wrote:Deleting.
Fusion of old and new is always better . Vedic palmistry has many details which you do not get to see as generation by generation categories of hand has changed even geographically i see so much difference when i read hand . Hast Samudrik Shashtra is the most commonly known term people talk about . There are many other books like Kar Lakan Kar Vigyan and Hast Sanjeevani .
You find many details in these books. In Institute of Palmistry I teach and talk about fusion of both vedic Indian and western palmistry .

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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:16 am

Respected Nishaji

I think Kar lakhkhana and Hastsanjivinam both are belongs to jain Samudik paddhati(system)
I forgot to write
* Nadi paddhati
and very latest Indo-western system is Lalkitab started by 1939.
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  nishaghai on Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:38 am

Upendrasingh Bhadoriya wrote:Respected Nishaji

I think Kar lakhkhana and Hastsanjivinam both are belongs to jain Samudik paddhati(system)
I forgot to write
* Nadi paddhati
and very latest Indo-western system is Lalkitab started by 1939.
Dear Upendra Singh
Lalkitab do have little palmistry detail but it does not carry and independent palmistry study . It is based on Vedic astrology . When I talk about indo western system then it does not mean lal kitab . By western we talk about finger prints skin ridge pattern and by Indian we talk about passive hands the Famous Indian Karma Theory and its link with our active and passive hand and modern palmistry . Fustion togather gives wonderful result.

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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:43 pm

Respected Nishaji

Have you gone through Lalkitab- 1939? It is a complete book of palmistry itself you can see the book seriously. After 1939, Every lal kitaab book contains some part of palmistry in them. Yes I can understand your point that your palmistry based on Indo-western and not based on Lalkitab.

Even your father Respected Prof. Dayanand has also mentioned in his book named “ Palmistry Ke Anubhoot Prayog” Pg. No. 41, figure No.6/65 that at the time of Question related to Debt One should check The Great Quadrangle. IF it is broad at Upper Mars with compare to broadness at Mount Jupiter than Debt recovery becomes difficult.
Above mentioned condition is already mentioned in Laal kitaab book, 1939 farman No. 99 page no 89.
So it is clear that Dayanandji referd this Laal kitab Book for Palmistry. This is one example only.

I do agree left hand connected with past karma or sanchit karma. Finger patterns are also given in Indian palmistry in different meaning. Even all the world has recognised one of the very important loop of palm as Rajah loop ( राजः लूप ). Hence I never deny western palmistry but I know if you have to reply and satisfy Jatak by his hand only you have to go through Indian palmistry only. Even in India there are system of horary palmistry to give the answer in quick manner. It is even better and easy than Horary astrology.
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  pravin kumar on Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:23 am

Nishaji,

Your reference of Karma Theory is explained by William Benham to indicate how a person has changed his life (assuming left as passive and right as active). Some Improve their life but there are others who do not and in fact fail miserably.


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Upendrasingh Bhadoriya wrote:Respected Nishaji

I think Kar lakhkhana and Hastsanjivinam both are belongs to jain Samudik paddhati(system)
I forgot to write
* Nadi paddhati
and very latest Indo-western system is Lalkitab started by 1939.
Dear Upendra Singh
 Lalkitab do have  little palmistry detail but it does not carry and independent palmistry study . It is based on Vedic astrology . When I talk about indo western system then it does not mean lal kitab . By western we talk about finger prints skin ridge pattern and by Indian we talk about passive hands the Famous Indian Karma Theory  and its link with our active and passive hand and modern palmistry . Fustion togather gives wonderful result.

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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  nishaghai on Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:31 am

Dear Mr Pravin as soon as you see both hands you come to know the diffrence that weather the Jatakas has spoiled his karmas or improved them
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  nishaghai on Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:39 am

Dear Mr Upender I have original Urdu Lal Kitab with me 1939 my father Dayanand Verma has great collection of Indian and Western palmistry books . As you mentioned that in his book palmistry book palmistry ke Anubhoot Proyog he has mentioned about debt recovery great quadrangle if broader from upper Mars recovery becomes difficult is taken from Farman 99 . Yes that Is why in my earlier post I mentioned fusion is good since there are many answer we get from both Vedic and Western together give better result
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:58 am

Respected Nishaji

My simple request was only that " Lalkitab" is different kind of complete palmistry system. Isn't it?
Lalkitab 1939 is only Palmistry and physiognomy it doesn't have astrology.
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Lal Kitab - Pt. Roop Chand Josh (1939)

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:35 am


Dear Upendrasingh & Nisha,

Here's an objective source describing the claimed contents of 'Lal Kitab':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lal_Kitab

Lal Kitab is described to be a set of 5 books authored by Pt. Roop Chand Josh (anonymously) with only the first book published in 1939:

1 - Lal Kitab Ke Farman (The Edicts of Lal Kitab), 1939, 383 pages
2 - Lal Kitab Ke Arman (Ilm Samudrik Kee Lal Kitab Ke Armaan), (The “Aspirations” of Lal Kitab), 1940, 280 pages
3 - Gutka (Ilm Samudrik Kee Lal Kitab) (Third Part), 1941, 428 pages
4 - Lal Kitab Ke Farman (Lal Kitab – Tarmeem Shuda), 1942, 384 pages
5 - Ilm-e Samudrik ki buniyad par ki Lalkitab (Lal Kitab), 1952, 1173 pages

The content is described to represent an example of astro-palmistry written by an unknown author; the work is based on 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samudrika_Shastra' (=  the study of face reading, aura reading, and whole body analysis):





By the way, there appear to be other works published by other authors (who claim that their work has it's origins in the original version) under the same title... where the content is clearly very different; for example, this English version appears to have contents merely focussed on astrology only!:

http://www.amazon.com/Lal-Kitab-Rare-Book-Astrology/dp/8122308848



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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:04 pm

Dear Martin

It's happened only in India.
There are dozen of writers claim that Lal kitabs are their own creation. And they are earnings millions of rupees (Indian currency ).
There are a lot stories about Lal kitab.
But fact is that Roopchand Joshi was the  writer of Lal kitab. He had put palmistry phrenology and physiology all to gather in his first book named lalkitab ke farman 1939 ( simple translation could be  " Orders of red book 1939 )
All lalkitab books are very popular in northern part of India because of easy and low cost remedies are given in it as visiter to astrologer or palmist want it.
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Re: What are the major 'schools' in Vedic palmistry?

Post  nishaghai on Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:23 am

Martijn (admin) wrote:
Dear Upendrasingh & Nisha,

Here's an objective source describing the claimed contents of 'Lal Kitab':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lal_Kitab

Lal Kitab is described to be a set of 5 books authored by Pt. Roop Chand Josh (anonymously) with only the first book published in 1939:

1 - Lal Kitab Ke Farman (The Edicts of Lal Kitab), 1939, 383 pages
2 - Lal Kitab Ke Arman (Ilm Samudrik Kee Lal Kitab Ke Armaan), (The “Aspirations” of Lal Kitab), 1940, 280 pages
3 - Gutka (Ilm Samudrik Kee Lal Kitab) (Third Part), 1941, 428 pages
4 - Lal Kitab Ke Farman (Lal Kitab – Tarmeem Shuda), 1942, 384 pages
5 - Ilm-e Samudrik ki buniyad par ki Lalkitab (Lal Kitab), 1952, 1173 pages

The content is described to represent an example of astro-palmistry written by an unknown author; the work is based on 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samudrika_Shastra' (=  the study of face reading, aura reading, and whole body analysis):





By the way, there appear to be other works published by other authors (who claim that their work has it's origins in the original version) under the same title... where the content is clearly very different; for example, this English version appears to have contents merely focussed on astrology only!:

http://www.amazon.com/Lal-Kitab-Rare-Book-Astrology/dp/8122308848



Hello Marjin
Yes I agree with you
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