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Post  GizPreto on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:41 pm

Hello all, i am trying to measure my fingers in order to find the 2D to 4D ratio, but not really sure how to do it correctly. The problem is that i don`t know from where exactly on the palm to start the measurement. I have attached 2 pictures of my right hand. The index finger appears to be longer and as i know it is not typical for a male right? Is there something wrong with me? Does my hand look more feminine overall? I will much appreciate your thoughts and comments and some instructions on the correct measurement Thanks in advance!

http://imageshack.us/f/825/felipe061.jpg/

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:42 pm

GizPreto wrote:Hello all, i am trying to measure my fingers in order to find the 2D to 4D ratio, but not really sure how to do it correctly. The problem is that i don`t know from where exactly on the palm to start the measurement. I have attached 2 pictures of my right hand. The index finger appears to be longer and as i know it is not typical for a male right? Is there something wrong with me? Does my hand look more feminine overall? I will much appreciate your thoughts and comments and some instructions on the correct measurement Thanks in advance!

http://imageshack.us/f/825/felipe061.jpg/

Hello GizPreto,

First of all, thank you for your question!

You've managed to post (only) one picture, which gives the impression that your index finger is actually rather short - which is not unusual for a male. And the picture below indicates that your 2D:4D digit ratio is probably close to 0.92.

At this topic I have given a few more guidelines to make the measurement by yourself:
http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t2203-measuring-problem

Have I managed to answer your question?

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Re: Measuring problem

Post  GizPreto on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:15 pm

Martijn (admin) wrote:
GizPreto wrote:Hello all, i am trying to measure my fingers in order to find the 2D to 4D ratio, but not really sure how to do it correctly. The problem is that i don`t know from where exactly on the palm to start the measurement. I have attached 2 pictures of my right hand. The index finger appears to be longer and as i know it is not typical for a male right? Is there something wrong with me? Does my hand look more feminine overall? I will much appreciate your thoughts and comments and some instructions on the correct measurement Thanks in advance!

http://imageshack.us/f/825/felipe061.jpg/

Hello GizPreto,

First of all, thank you for your question!

You've managed to post (only) one picture, which gives the impression that your index finger is actually rather short - which is not unusual for a male. And the picture below indicates that your 2D:4D digit ratio is probably close to 0.92.

At this topic I have given a few more guidelines to make the measurement by yourself:
http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t2203-measuring-problem

Have I managed to answer your question?

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yet.
you are sure and 0.92.? when I measured gave 0.95

in their calculations as my 2D and 4D? from my left and right?


right[img] [/img]

left

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sorry for the English.
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Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:28 pm

GizPreto wrote:

yet.
you are sure and 0.92.? when I measured gave 0.95

in their calculations as my 2D and 4D? from my left and right?


right[img] [/img]

left

[img][/img]

sorry for the English.
thank you.

Hi again,

For your 2nd picture of your right hand I find a ratio of 0.91.
And for your left hand the ratio is much higher: 0.97.

So the average for both hands is probably close to 0.94, which is only slightly below the average for a (south-american) male.

(If your 0.95 relates to the average of both hands then I think we found a likewise result; but I could add that your measurement might be more accurate if you made it directly from your hands)


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PS. Don't worry about your English, you've managed to express yourself efficiently! Thumb up

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Re: Measuring problem

Post  GizPreto on Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:40 pm

Martijn (admin) wrote:
GizPreto wrote:

yet.
you are sure and 0.92.? when I measured gave 0.95

in their calculations as my 2D and 4D? from my left and right?


right[img] [/img]

left

[img][/img]

sorry for the English.
thank you.

Hi again,

For your 2nd picture of your right hand I find a ratio of 0.91.
And for your left hand the ratio is much higher: 0.97.

So the average for both hands is probably close to 0.94, which is only slightly below the average for a (south-american) male.

(If your 0.95 relates to the average of both hands then I think we found a likewise result; but I could add that your measurement might be more accurate if you made it directly from your hands)


wave

PS. Don't worry about your English, you've managed to express yourself efficiently! Thumb up

thank you, and which South American media? and the average of all races?

I measured in my right hand directly on gave 0.95

on the left directly tb gave 0.95 am wrong? and or images that diminish the 2d 4d?

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:20 pm

GizPreto wrote:
thank you, and which South American media? and the average of all races?

I measured in my right hand directly on gave 0.95

on the left directly tb gave 0.95 am wrong? and or images that diminish the 2d 4d?

GizPreto, if you found 0.95 on both hands via direct measurements... then I think that value is likely correct. Thumbs up!

Unfortunately there are not many 2D:4D digit ratio studies available related to South-American males, but from my experience with various populations around the world your 0.95 value can very likely best be described as 'normal' for a (south-american) male.

Here are 2 studies from Brazil which suggest that the average digit ratio for males in Brazil is probably close to 0.96:
http://www.sciedu.ca/journal/index.php/jst/article/viewFile/367/359
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886911005800

So this kind of confirms that your digit ratio is slightly below the average, but very close to the average and therefore it can probably best be described as just 'normal'.

I hope this makes sense now?

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Post  GizPreto on Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:45 pm

yes thank you, but I can post pictures of the hands of my friends and you can talk to them 2D 4D ratio?

as already measured the 2D 4D them and want to see how their calculations and the like with mine.

besides I know which one and best in sports and other characteristics of the 2d 4d, you can do this? it is what the reply thanks

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:20 am


Well, you are welcome to present pictures + measurements of your friends hands. But please make sure that they present an accurate impression of the finger lengths.

In general one can say that people who are good at sports tend to have a lower 2D:4D digit ratio than people who are not good in sports at all. But one should be very aware that this truth not always gets confirmed in individuals (only in a signficant majority of large groups of people).


PS. In my experience it is often quite impossible to determine an accurate digit ratio from a small single picture, because in such pictures it is often very hard to judge whether the fingers are fully stretched and positioned frontal to the camera.

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Post  GizPreto on Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:19 pm

but what size I put the images? Why the different results with a large image a little much and I think and why I gave her 0.92 0.91.

As you measuring this? using a program? what?

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:16 pm


I usually work with a (see-through) ruler to make the measurements - see below.



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