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Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Kiran.Katawa on Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:35 pm

Hi,

As you all know, the fingers and the headline both indicate the thinking ability and style.
What is the difference between long fingers and a long head line.
Both indicate analytical ability. But, what is the difference?!
Specifically consider the following 4 combinations:
1. Long head line, short fingers
2. Long head line, long fingers
3. Short headline, short fingers
4. Short headline, long fingers.
How do you differentiate 1st and 4th combination.

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  pravin kumar on Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:39 am

Kiran,

Benham has given detailed explanation of Long/Short Fingers and Long/Short head lines. Long Fingered person will go in for details minutely and short fingered person is impulsive and has big projects in mind. He cannot be expected to go into detail of any project. He will think big without planning out the details. Hence Long Fingered person will not take risks easily unless there are other indications in the palm like independent head line.

Long Head line will show mentality for a longer period of time and the strength of the head line will indicate how strong he will be mentally. If the line weakens at the end or anywhere in between then there is pressure on the mind which it cannot bear.

Similarly you can argue about the Short Head Line.

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Kiran.Katawa on Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:42 pm

Thank you Pravin ji for sharing your thoughts.

But, you have written about long fingers and short fingers; Long HL and short HL.
My query is about the difference in long HL and long fingers.
How do you differentiate the traits represented by long HL and a long fingers. But, indicate detailed thinking. So, what is the difference?

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  pravin kumar on Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:47 pm

Kiranji,

I would not be able to tell the difference.

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  rajashri on Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:54 pm

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Thank you Pravin ji for sharing your thoughts.

But, you have written about long fingers and short fingers; Long HL and short HL.
My query is about the difference in long HL and long fingers.
How do you differentiate the traits represented by long HL and a long fingers. But, indicate detailed thinking. So, what is the difference?


Hello Kiran Katawa,

According to the different hands i have read so far about long head line and long fingers, what I feel is long fingers generally have a good taste,artistic or philosophical inclination in thinking. Both help in detailed thinking, but when it comes to endurance and facing life's real problems a long flawless HL is superior. And as we all know lines can change when the person changes internally but have never heard of fingers changing their shapes or sizes.The nerves and nadis tend to change the corresponding lines. I am not sure if this(answer) is what you are looking for.

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  pravin kumar on Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:23 am

Mounts can change but as far as the fingers are concerned I have not observed them changing and secondly the palm as a whole carries more weight in reading then the lines on the palm. Lines only show the direction in which your energy will flow and when but the energy power point is the palm. Hence it is said that you need not look for a fate line in the palms of Square shaped palm holder etc. etc.

quote="rajashri"]
Kiran.Katawa wrote:Thank you Pravin ji for sharing your thoughts.

But, you have written about long fingers and short fingers; Long HL and short HL.
My query is about the difference in long HL and long fingers.
How do you differentiate the traits represented by long HL and a long fingers. But, indicate detailed thinking. So, what is the difference?


Hello Kiran Katawa,

According to the different hands i have read so far about long head line and long fingers, what I feel is long fingers generally have a good taste,artistic or philosophical inclination in thinking. Both help in detailed thinking, but when it comes to endurance and facing life's real problems a long flawless HL is superior. And as we all know lines can change when the person changes internally but have never heard of fingers changing their shapes or sizes.The nerves and nadis tend to change the corresponding lines. I am not sure if this(answer) is what you are looking for.[/quote]

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Kiran.Katawa on Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:51 am

rajashri wrote:
Kiran.Katawa wrote:Thank you Pravin ji for sharing your thoughts.

But, you have written about long fingers and short fingers; Long HL and short HL.
My query is about the difference in long HL and long fingers.
How do you differentiate the traits represented by long HL and a long fingers. But, indicate detailed thinking. So, what is the difference?


Hello Kiran Katawa,

According to the different hands i have read so far about long head line and long fingers, what I feel is long fingers generally have a good taste,artistic or philosophical inclination in thinking. Both help in detailed thinking, but when it comes to endurance and facing life's real problems a long flawless HL is superior. And as we all know lines can change when the person changes internally but have never heard of fingers changing their shapes or sizes.The nerves and nadis tend to change the corresponding lines. I am not sure if this(answer) is what you are looking for.
Thank you Rajashri ji for sharing your thoughts on this query.  
What I am struggling to understand is the difference in the thinking thats attributed to long fingers and long headline. As you know, both the fingers and the headline represent the thinking style of a person. So, my question is on the differences in the thinking that is shown by the long head line and that of a long fingers.

As you have mentioned both help in detailed thinking and one is superior than the other. Then, how do you differentiate, if both are same? There should be some differentiating patterns.

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  rajashri on Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:36 pm

Kiran Katawa,

The difference is in the level of intelligence. A line can tell you about the depth of a person's intelligence, but fingers cannot. A line shows the direction or the particular field he /she is inclined towards,while fingers can only generally indicate arts,philosophy,psychic or mixed type. They cannot tell the person's capability and capacity ie, quality and quantity.
Again, the word "intelligence" has a different meaning for people of different level. In reality, the highest intelligence is one which is self realized or on the path of the same. Evolution is our true purpose on earth. Therefore only a long headline can truly indicate that while fingers cannot.

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Kiran.Katawa on Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:28 pm

rajashri wrote:Kiran Katawa,

The difference is in the level of intelligence. A line can tell you about the depth of a person's intelligence, but fingers cannot. A line shows the direction or the particular field he /she is inclined towards,while fingers can only generally indicate arts,philosophy,psychic or mixed type. They cannot tell the person's capability and capacity ie, quality and quantity.
rajashri
Rajashri ji,
thank you for the detailed reply.
But, again, these points though are correct, are not answering the question I have posed.

A long head line indicates detailed thinking(what ever may be the direction be - the point is about detailed thinking) and so are long fingers.
So, what is the difference in the "detailed thinking" which can be measured from these 2 markers of the palm?

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Lynn on Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:36 pm

hi Kiran, I understand what you are asking but I haven't had time to formulate a reply. Good question!  Smile 

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Kiran.Katawa on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:42 pm

Lynn wrote:hi Kiran, I understand what you are asking but I haven't had time to formulate a reply. Good question!  Smile 
 Thanks!  Lynn.
Will be waiting for your reply Smile

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Post  Lynn on Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:09 am

Ok still no time for a considered reply, so....off the top of my head....!  Wink 

Long fingers are found in air or water hands. Fingers represent the mind, so long fingers spend a lot of time in the inner world, the mental realm, the mind predominates over the body. Long fingers spend a lot of time thinking about things, pay more attention to detail, analysis, may be slow to put ideas into practise. Imagine the energy flowing out of the palm into the fingers and then into the outside world - regardless of how much they have thought about it on their headline, they will be slower to express it as they have to analyse it more and think about more details before presenting it to the world.

However long fingers also present two different elemental handshapes - air and water, so already two different modes of thought. eg. in a water hand this 'finger thought' is more subjective, emotionally based, "how does this affect me", whereas air hand is more objective. So already with finger length we see a difference and have to look at the rest of the hand - finger length is general.

Kiran, you said that both long fingers and long headline show style of thinking. I disagree. Long fingers show that they think a lot, but doesn't tell you HOW they think. (eg already the example above - depends on handshape).

For the style / manner of thinking look at the form / flow of the headline:
Straight (fire form) is a more logical, linear, rational way of thinking, fast thinker, direct, straight thinking, straight talking,  'mathematical'.
Curved (air form) is more imaginative, creative thought that is more influenced by emotions of the moon mount (also look at the width of the line).

Regardless of the flow, a long headline goes all the way across the hand. The greater the length of any line, the more you can do with it, the greater the range of application of that element.
Air length air line - long air line / sydney line. Half the line is in objective half of hand, half in subjective. Long headlines have that extra bit that can think 'beyond', can take in more info, see a broader or deeper perspective, a wider range of vision, look below the surface, think more deeply, look at things from different angles.
However, all this thought may not necessarily be projected out into the world, the palm is more of an inner thing, what is happening inside the body - the fingers are more about how we project our thoughts, how we act on them. Long fingers will prevaricate and ruminate even more, short fingers will just do it.

You asked us to especially consider difference between
1. Long head line, short fingers
4. Short headline, long fingers.

but already we have to consider other aspects. Eg are those long fingers on a water hand or an air hand.

(Pravin has already said some of these things, here I am trying to combine it as you requested.)

1. Long headline will take in a broader perspective, it can think beyond the limitations of short headline and project ideas into the future - seeing the consequences or implications of an idea. With short fingers they will then quickly act on it, put it into some practical use. I also find this combination on the earthy natural philosopher type. eg a farmer who also contemplates the nature of the universe.

2. Short headline will be more concerned with practical, useful knowledge, facts. But can be limited, unable to see the full range of possibilities. Therefore with their long fingers they will think more about it and can feel frustrated in their understanding, feel they don't know enough. But they are good at applying what they know. For example, an academic who teaches a specific or specialist subject -they can use their mind in a specific range or field.

Sorry rajishri, I disagree that length of headline shows level of intelligence. I know many mentally handicapped people (people with learning difficulties) who have long headlines. But I agree with you about - lines can change, but finger length doesn't change.

Sorry if this is a bit disorganised and if it doesn't answer your question Kiran - did it help at all? I am just "thinking out loud" .... with my short headline! Laughing

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Post  learner on Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:02 am

Great explanation Lynn. I'm still learning, your post is very helpful. Please do post a 'considered reply'.

Learner  Thanks! 

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Kiran.Katawa on Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:55 am

Lynn wrote:Ok still no time for a considered reply, so....off the top of my head....!  Wink 

Long fingers are found in air or water hands. Fingers represent the mind, so long fingers spend a lot of time in the inner world, the mental realm, the mind predominates over the body. Long fingers spend a lot of time thinking about things, pay more attention to detail, analysis, may be slow to put ideas into practise. Imagine the energy flowing out of the palm into the fingers and then into the outside world - regardless of how much they have thought about it on their headline, they will be slower to express it as they have to analyse it more and think about more details before presenting it to the world.

However long fingers also present two different elemental handshapes - air and water, so already two different modes of thought. eg. in a water hand this 'finger thought' is more subjective, emotionally based, "how does this affect me", whereas air hand is more objective. So already with finger length we see a difference and have to look at the rest of the hand - finger length is general.

Kiran, you said that both long fingers and long headline show style of thinking. I disagree. Long fingers show that they think a lot, but doesn't tell you HOW they think. (eg already the example above - depends on handshape).

For the style / manner of thinking look at the form / flow of the headline:
Straight (fire form) is a more logical, linear, rational way of thinking, fast thinker, direct, straight thinking, straight talking,  'mathematical'.
Curved (air form) is more imaginative, creative thought that is more influenced by emotions of the moon mount (also look at the width of the line).

Regardless of the flow, a long headline goes all the way across the hand. The greater the length of any line, the more you can do with it, the greater the range of application of that element.
Air length air line - long air line / sydney line. Half the line is in objective half of hand, half in subjective. Long headlines have that extra bit that can think 'beyond', can take in more info, see a broader or deeper perspective, a wider range of vision, look below the surface, think more deeply, look at things from different angles.
However, all this thought may not necessarily be projected out into the world, the palm is more of an inner thing, what is happening inside the body - the fingers are more about how we project our thoughts, how we act on them. Long fingers will prevaricate and ruminate even more, short fingers will just do it.

You asked us to especially consider difference between
1. Long head line, short fingers
4. Short headline, long fingers.

but already we have to consider other aspects. Eg are those long fingers on a water hand or an air hand.

(Pravin has already said some of these things, here I am trying to combine it as you requested.)

1. Long headline will take in a broader perspective, it can think beyond the limitations of short headline and project ideas into the future - seeing the consequences or implications of an idea. With short fingers they will then quickly act on it, put it into some practical use. I also find this combination on the earthy natural philosopher type. eg a farmer who also contemplates the nature of the universe.

2. Short headline will be more concerned with practical, useful knowledge, facts. But can be limited, unable to see the full range of possibilities. Therefore with their long fingers they will think more about it and can feel frustrated in their understanding, feel they don't know enough. But they are good at applying what they know. For example, an academic who teaches a specific or specialist subject -they can use their mind in a specific range or field.

Sorry rajishri, I disagree that length of headline shows level of intelligence. I know many mentally handicapped people (people with learning difficulties) who have long headlines. But I agree with you about - lines can change, but finger length doesn't change

Sorry if this is a bit disorganised and if it doesn't answer your question Kiran - did it help at all? I am just "thinking out loud" .... with my short headline! Laughing
Hi Lynn, thank you for a detailed reply. Yes, you did answer to my question. Thank you very much.
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Post  Lynn on Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:57 am

learner - thanks. (please post a considered reply  Laughing - it probably would have been less rambling!)

Kiran - glad it helped.  Thank you!  I'm interested to hear other people's ideas in answer to your question - thanks, it made me have to stop and think about those differences - and I'm still not sure I got it exactly right - needs input from someone with a longer headline!  Wink 

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Post  Kiran.Katawa on Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:06 pm

Lynn wrote:learner - thanks. (please post a considered reply  Laughing - it probably would have been less rambling!)

Kiran - glad it helped.  Thank you!  I'm interested to hear other people's ideas in answer to your question - thanks, it made me have to stop and think about those differences - and I'm still not sure I got it exactly right - needs input from someone with a longer headline!  Wink 

I own a long head line, but, not sure, not an equivalently long experience in palm readings Wink.
I too thought of it and have the following to share:
long head line takes a longer, various possibilities, futuristic, wider view of the things at hand. It might not get into every corner and intricate details. It also brings perspective, philosophical thinking in the owner.

While a person with longer fingers would get into every corner and intricate detail of the subject. The owner might not form a perspective or philosophical ideas, but, has each and every details with him.

Now, since a person with longer head line thinks on a wider perspective too, then how is it different from short finger's big picture thinking? . I think, the long head line makes the owner to think of various options and he has various opinions and views of the matter at hand. While the short fingered person has just a bigger picture of the matter. But, he might not necessarily have though of various options.

And yes, others input here would add to the richness of this discussion.


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Post  rajashri on Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:26 pm

Dear Lynn,

I do not know much about the difference between long fingers and long headline . Whatever I wrote was based on my observation too. I did mention that everyone's perception about "intelligence" is different. According to me Saints and spiritual masters are intelligent. But many others consider them to be foolish. There are many masters and saints all over the world who are illiterate. I do not think that makes a person less intelligent. Their purpose in this particular incarnation does not need them to have formal education. In fact they are called mad too. To make money or be successful one has to have a lower intelligence. A person with a higher level of intelligence is beyond these worldly desires. He considers these people to be unintelligent as he knows that their minds are constantly moving in never ending circles of desires. The only way out is the higher intelligence.

The intellect is very limited. It is certainly not the highest potential of a human being. I did mention a " flawless " long headline. Yes,but i am sorry I forgot to mention that it should be a line which is heading straight or towards the upper mars. The direction and the end is important. Even I have found people with a  single sloping headline having average intelligence and also with some psychological problems. Now the exact length of the line in such cases cannot be properly described. And I am sorry i do not have the knack to hunt and attach pictures and diagrams. lol! 

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Post  Lynn on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:30 pm

hi rajashri, I didn't see the word 'flawless' but yes I notice you said "the word "intelligence" has a different meaning for people". I took intelligence to mean something like IQ  Wink Actually some of the things I said about long headline would not necessarily apply to people with a mental handicap either eg 'thinking beyond' 'seeing consequences or implications of an idea'. Smile 

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Post  rajashri on Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:48 am

hi Lynn,

Guess you are right ! The human mind is so complex that we cannot reach to final conclusions . As we all know that other lines change the meaning of a particular line, then how can two individual parts be independently distinguished?

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fingers/headline/reason/innside/outside

Post  knox gillespie on Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:04 pm

1.My experience shows that the fingers show our social and outer constructive abilities.
ex. the index shows ambitions of personal projects where the little finger shows our social radar.
1a. the head line relates to conscious ego access to the subconscious space, memory and imagination
ex, the longer head line weaves a narrative while the short lines act selfishly

2. Fingers show reason skills for the world
2a. head line shows capacity of inner reason, or reflective space.

3. Long fingers show heath of nerves and body
3a. long head line reveals , brain health ( hormones) and trauma,

a few ideas to get started, knox

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Re: Difference b/w long headline and long fingers.

Post  Lynn on Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:38 am

good to hear from you knox  wave 
Please can you explain more about "short (head) lines act selfishly" ?

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Post  knox gillespie on Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:55 am

thanks Lynn

Short head lines act selfishly, because reason skills and scope are limited. Example , smart ,short headlines can be great at deduction and poor at inference skills. Not seeing the big picture may be a concern...Smart/intelligent/wise is a good model for headlines. knox

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Post  Lynn on Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:00 pm

thanks knox, yes now I understand what you were saying, about not seeing the broader perspective etc.

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Post  jeanette on Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:57 pm

Knox Gillespie is dead right and spot on with his description of the short headline; They are,without a doubt, selfish.
PS Knox Gillespie can I ask are you Scottish that is very Scottish names you have.

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