Regarding the Loyalty Line

Hi,
the loyalty line which runs horizontal on mount of Venus, also divides mount of Venus from mount of Mars.
So, what are the behavioral patterns 'coz of this?

Hello Kiran

This is the first time iam hearing a term caled loyality line, you mean the worry line.

Thanks
Anand

Hi Kiran and Anand

If I'm not mistaken a term used by Jhonny finchman. As well I'm curious to learn the meaning and behavioral traits, I seem to have one myself.

Ana

anand_palm wrote:Hello Kiran

This is the first time iam hearing a term caled loyality line, you mean the worry line.

Thanks
Anand

No Anand. Its a horizontal line on the mount of Venus as is mentioned by Anacaro.

Kiran.Katawa wrote:

anand_palm wrote:Hello Kiran

This is the first time iam hearing a term caled loyality line, you mean the worry line.

Thanks
Anand

No Anand. Its a horizontal line on the mount of Venus as is mentioned by Anacaro.

Hi Kiran

could you post some images to have a look on this line? I've never heard about it

thanks a lot

"Hi Kiran

could you post some images to have a look on this line? I've never heard about it

thanks a lot

"

Hi Laurah

This is my right hand palm and based on the brief description given by Jhonny Fincham and as for what he shows as an illustration on of his book, I think this could be an example of one..... but I'm not a palmist so not confident if mine qualifies but at least would give an idea ..... I think

Thank you anacaro

hope that Kiran will be able to validate this pic
Got the same kind of crease but I thought it was only the fold of the thumb

One interpretation is the feeling of "blood is thicker than water". But I think the loyalty can go beyond family (blood) bonds to close friends.

People with it may stand up for one of their own without regard to who they would really agree with ethically. In this case it'd be the attitude of "don't mess with one of mine.."

good interpretation Patti. It can extend further than family or friends eg football team.

PS (edit) tho to be honest I have never really understood this line. For example, John had a strong loyalty line. In a bar John punched a man who said something disrespectful about his wife (John showing loyalty to his wife, exactly as you said "don't mess with one of mine..") ... but at that time John was also having an affair (disloyalty to his wife!).

Lynn wrote:good interpretation Patti. It can extend further than family or friends eg football team.

PS (edit) tho to be honest I have never really understood this line. For example, John had a strong loyalty line. In a bar John punched a man who said something disrespectful about his wife (John showing loyalty to his wife, exactly as you said "don't mess with one of mine..") ... but at that time John was also having an affair (disloyalty to his wife!).

Interesting example Lynn! And it helps focus the energy. Probably loyalty is the wrong label. It's location would add the assertiveness and/or aggression.

And, there's a lot more involved when someone is cheating than loyalty.

Lynn wrote:good interpretation Patti. It can extend further than family or friends eg football team.

PS (edit) tho to be honest I have never really understood this line. For example, John had a strong loyalty line. In a bar John punched a man who said something disrespectful about his wife (John showing loyalty to his wife, exactly as you said "don't mess with one of mine..") ... but at that time John was also having an affair (disloyalty to his wife!).

Hehe, it seems like John is loyal to his own definition of loyalty

Hello all

Thanks for info, i was thinking that line which has been mentioned is worry line. THanks Anacaro, Patti. How different is this line from the worry line. The lines beneath it, is it called worry line or is it part of it.


Boaz

Good sense of humor, i was laughing at ur comments Probably john is loyal to both in his own sense

Thanks
Anand

Brent,

Look at the palm image below.. There are four lines coming from near the base of the thumb called the family ring. The first second and fourth are nearer to the base (I tried to connect this with the response Anacaro21 gave). The third one is further from the family ring as compared to the other 3. So it could be abortion (I am just trying to reason out and hope if Anacaro21 reads it will respond) Since out of the rest 3 none of the lines are dim and they are 2 sisters and one brother then you can be sure that both the females born are bound to have strong characters like male or male like tendencies -- boldness, emotion wise stronger than usually females are. Even in the case of kids on the relationship lines I follow this strong straight lines to be that of male child and thin curved or inclined to one side to be female and again I have made mistakes in getting the right gender about 25% so I further studied that the child if born a female when the indications are for male then that child will have male like characteristics and this has never gone wrong. So I apply the same reasoning to the brothers and sisters line.

Dear Anacaro21,

Are you two in the family i.e. 2 brothers or a brother and sister or 2 sisters?

anacaro21 wrote:"Hi Kiran

could you post some images to have a look on this line? I've never heard about it

thanks a lot

"

Hi Laurah

This is my right hand palm and based on the brief description given by Jhonny Fincham and as for what he shows as an illustration on of his book, I think this could be an example of one..... but I'm not a palmist so not confident if mine qualifies but at least would give an idea ..... I think    

Pravin Kumar

I got this idea of brothers and sisters from some palmist but he did not give me the details. So I applied myself but got limited success. I used to read the ending of the line earlier as Death or illness or perhaps having a static life with no progress.

If the line was prominent and long then long life and playing an important role in his/her life and gets popularity and fame and success in life. You work on those principles and read as many palms as you can and see the results. YOu will get many rights and according to your research you will reach your own conclusions.

Actually Western Palmist call this Loyalty Lines but you can also interpret it as: Are not brothers and sisters loyal to each other?

A horizontal influence line on the upper mount of mars is considered in Indian Palmistry as Enemy Line and I take that to be also indication of problems with the lungs, bronchities,throat problems provided there is confirmation from the nails and the third phalange of the Index Finger to be long and ridges on a long nail on the finger. And if it is not a health indication then it means cutting the Upper Mount of Mars which indicates a person who is a fighter. Horizontal influence line there would mean a person who gives up easily.

If proper research is done then perhaps so many other indications in Indian Palmistry could be explained logically to match the western method but that will require lots of research and also a Group where both Indian Palmist and Western Palmist sit together and do it.

Pravin Kumar

pravin kumar wrote:Dear Anacaro21,

Are you two in the family i.e. 2 brothers or a brother and sister or 2 sisters?

Pravin Kumar

Hi Pravin

I'm the oldest of three, one sister and one brother.

Ana

Dear anarco21,

The third child is most successful in life and then the first that is you.

Pravin Kumar

Laurah wrote:Thank you anacaro

hope that Kiran will be able to validate this pic
Got the same kind of crease but I thought it was only the fold of the thumb

Yes Anacaro and Laurah, thats the line I am speaking about.

Lynn wrote:good interpretation Patti. It can extend further than family or friends eg football team.

PS (edit) tho to be honest I have never really understood this line. For example, John had a strong loyalty line. In a bar John punched a man who said something disrespectful about his wife (John showing loyalty to his wife, exactly as you said "don't mess with one of mine..") ... but at that time John was also having an affair (disloyalty to his wife!).

Hi Lynn, Patti,

Why not - If there are other markers indicating this?
And 'coz of this John might be carrying guilty feeling also?!
So, the presence of another affair shouldn't negate the meaning of the loyalty line.

However, more than LOYALTY, what I am looking for is the effect that its separating the Mars zone from the Venus zone. The masculine and feminine traits in him are separated from each other. So, how does this look up in a person?

Lynn wrote:good interpretation Patti. It can extend further than family or friends eg football team.

PS (edit) tho to be honest I have never really understood this line. For example, John had a strong loyalty line. In a bar John punched a man who said something disrespectful about his wife (John showing loyalty to his wife, exactly as you said "don't mess with one of mine..") ... but at that time John was also having an affair (disloyalty to his wife!).

hello Lynn

I think we must not mix up loyalty and fidelity. I think one can be Loyal and infidel to his witfe (her husband), because I think it's just question about freedom and some kind of belonging to the other... But that's another large debat ...

anand_palm wrote:Hello all

Thanks for info, i was thinking that line which has been mentioned is worry line. THanks Anacaro, Patti. How different is this line from the worry line. The lines beneath it, is it called worry line or is it part of it.


Boaz

Good sense of humor, i was laughing at ur comments Probably john is loyal to both in his own sense

Thanks
Anand

Hi Anand,

It is usually deeper, rarely cuts through the life line and is often parallel to the head line.

Hello Patti

Thanks for the info, i did not know about this, i was thinking it is worry line.


Anand

pravin kumar wrote:Dear anarco21,

The third child is most successful in life and then the first that is you.

Pravin Kumar

Pravin for the input

Patti wrote:

Interesting example Lynn! And it helps focus the energy. Probably loyalty is the wrong label. It's location would add the assertiveness and/or aggression.

And, there's a lot more involved when someone is cheating than loyalty.

I agree it is a very good point.

Regarding LOYALTY LINE, what I am looking for is the effect that its separating the Mars zone from the Venus zone. The masculine and feminine traits in him are separated from each other. So, how does this look up in a person?

Any new inputs on this old thread?

Hi Pravin,

I have always been curious, how do you go about finding the following:

1. where a person is in the family

2. How many brothers and sisters they have?
someone did this once for me and was quite accurate.

Would you be willing to describe to the members how this is done?

Many thanks!!!

Brent

Brent,

Please post 2/3 palms of the active hand with the portion on the Mount of Venus, lines going out from the family ring and I shall try to read it over here.

Brent wrote:Hi Pravin,

I have always been curious, how do you go about finding the following:

1. where a person is in the family

2. How many brothers and sisters they have?
someone did this once for me and was quite accurate.

Would you be willing to describe to the members how this is done?

Many thanks!!!

Brent

Pravin Kumar