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Post  Lynn on Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:19 am

Hi Asif, sorry I can't comment, I never saw that book.
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Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:36 am

jeanette wrote:Hi Martijin,
Yes I would like to be a voter. Thanks.
Jeanette.
Hi Jeanette, thanks for your sending me your 9 'votes' - these are now included in the rankings as well!!

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:55 am

asif amin wrote:Dear Martijin and Lynn,

I have an "Encyclopedia of palm and palm reading - A treatise on palmistry" by Samudrik Tilak M.Katakkar, published by UBS Publishers' Distributors Ltd, New Delhi-India. And also published in London. 1992 Edition.

What's your opinion about this book.
Hello Asif,

Well, this book is listed in the TOP 100 (currently at no.66) - so, it's a relatively well-known book.

And I have a copy of the book, but I think this book is not truely an 'Encyclopedia'... it appears to be based on the work of less than 30 authors (and not much more titles), and while the book counts over 700 pages, I think the major topic of the simian line is not even mentioned in this book. And there is for example no useful index to find info about specific topics in the book.

I also noticed that the few handprints that are included at the beginning of this book... are possibly all taken from other books (some where taken from Cheiro's book). I think this raises doubts about how authentic this book really is. In my various research projects this book has played no role at all (except for it's listing in the books TOP 100).

So, I prefer not to recommend this book - especially not as an 'encyclopedia' (though I know that some others have completely different opinions about this book).


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Post  Raman on Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:41 pm

asif amin wrote:One very famous book is "The New Horizon in Palmistry" by M.A Malik, published by Ferozson publisher Lahore. In this book author illustrate and define more than 700 palm with features and introductions. Author has vast experience in the field of Palmistry and psychology.
The New Horizons in Palmistry is Truly a good book if not famous.I got to Know of it only through PI Forums moderated by Sue.The excellent part is the number of illustrations that the author makes to validate his points.Many good books lack the original palm prints in reference to each sign symbol etc discussed.Thereby is becomes sometimes difficult to correlate with the authors views.It is obviously a good book for starters as well as professionals even if many may not agree to full the authors views on many Hand Line interpretations.

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Post  Raman on Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:59 pm

TruthSeeker wrote:IMHO, the most skilled palmist of the 20th century was a Indian-Kashmiri palmist named Mir Bashir who was based in London. His clientèle included the European royalty as well as many world-renowned celebrities. This is before my time, but in his prime (1960s) few palmists commanded as much worldwide respect as him. Unfortunately, he was not a prolific writer and authored only two books. One of which is in my possession (The Art of Hand Analysis).

How good was he? I have "third-hand" experience. Long time ago (when I was kid --- yes, that was a long time ago), my mom told me that her sister once had a reading by Mir Bashir in London. She actually told me specifically what Mir Bashir had told her. Indeed these were very specific events and of astonishing accuracy. Even now, decades later, I recall becoming very curious about palmistry from that day on. I have studied palmistry for 40 years and have read approximately 34,000 hands (yes, I kept count) but have yet a long, long way to go to come close to Mir Bashir's accuracy. And that is indeed the key word i.e. accuracy (and perhaps, specificity, as well). Actually, I have yet to meet any palmist who was really accurate as well as specific. Maybe someday I will ...


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Dear Truthseeker

Mr Mir Bashir was no doubt an excellent palm reader.I got to know of him some years back through a book by Mr Harvey Day(Author of many books on Yoga) who mentions many palm readers/Astroologers including Mir Bashir in his Book "Seeing into the future",Thorsons Publications 1966, Page 143.The books illustrates Mir Bashir's rise to fame as a palmist form reading the Hands Of Mill workers in Mumbai,India to London,England.However,I believe a laymen can go nowhere near his skills reading his books just like Cheiro's books.I have with me the book"How to read hands" published by Thorsons ,London,1957,Second Impression.The books seems very elementary .Although the other book by the same author"The art of Hand Analysis" is somewhat detailed.
Another palmist Mr. M.K.Gandhi(Not Mahatma Gandhi) finds mention in the same book by Mr Harvey,although I have never came across anyone mentioning the palmist anywhere.

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...The TOP 100 chart is now featured with 27 'voters'... other 'professional' members are also welcome to share their 'votes'!


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Post  asif amin on Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:00 pm

Dear Martijin and Lynn,

Please give me an idea about the book of Joyce Wilson
" The complete book of palmistry" published by the workman publishing company in USA in 1971.


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Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:16 pm


Hello Asif,

Your question is rather general: can you please specify your question?
And what do you have in mind so far... have you bought the book?


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Post  Lynn on Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:35 pm

asif amin wrote:Dear Martijin and Lynn,

Please give me an idea about the book of Joyce Wilson
" The complete book of palmistry" published by the workman publishing company in USA in 1971.

Sorry Asif, I haven't read it.

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Post  asif amin on Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:45 pm

Dear Martijin,

Yes I bought it today. I found it on Amazon sales at 15 number ranking.

Thanks Martijin and Lynn.
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Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:45 pm

asif amin wrote:Dear Martijin and Lynn,

Please give me an idea about the book of Joyce Wilson
" The complete book of palmistry" published by the workman publishing company in USA in 1971.
Sorry Asif,

I have to make a few words of caution regarding Wilson's (rather old) book from the 70's:

I don't want to recommend this book, because the author 'sells' the idea that your future/destiny is sort of fixed in your hand - but I think this is typically an 'old palmistry idea'.

For, one only has to become aware of the FACT that lhe lines always can change, and... usually they will change in time!


Asif, I hope you were aware of this:

While this book is ranked relatively high in the TOP 100 - I also would like to notice that so this book belongs to the very few in the TOP 20 which have NOT been recommended by the first 27 'voters' ...!!

Combined with the fact that this book is rather 'old' (written almost 40 years ago), I hope you will understand why I can not recommend this book.

Anyway, thanks for asking my opinion!!


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Post  Lynn on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:52 pm

Martijn (admin) wrote:I don't want to recommend this book, because the author 'sells' the idea that your future/destiny is sort of fixed in your hand - but I think this is typically an 'old palmistry idea'.

maybe that is why I never bought it? I know this book has been around for years, and is very popular, but I was never drawn to it


Martijn (admin) wrote: While this book is ranked relatively high in the TOP 100 - I also would like to notice that so this book belongs to the very few in the TOP 20 which have NOT been recommended by the first 27 'voters' ...!!
Combined with the fact that this book is rather 'old' (written almost 40 years ago), I hope you will understand why I can not recommend this book.

there are lots of books aged 40 years + which are worth buying, some old classics!
but I guess you will find them in the recommended section of the Top 20.

my personal recommendations are on my website books page http://www.handanalysis.co.uk/books.htm
sadly my updated page looks a bit sparse because amazon.co.uk don't have images for all the books. For people outside Uk, notice the Book Depository does free delivery to many parts of the world. (but not to Pakistan I think, I looked into it when Temoor wanted to order some books).


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Post  asif amin on Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:59 am

Dear Martijin and Lynn your both opinion is worthwhile.
Thanks!
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Post  Martijn (admin) on Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:17 pm

asif amin wrote:Dear Martijin and Lynn your both opinion is worthwhile.
Thanks!
Thanks!

Asif, I hope you now understand why I introduced the 'vote'-system!!?

Basically, I am very aware that some authors... are simply very good in writing books!!

But regarding some of them I seriously doubt the authenticity of their hand reading skills - especially if they also wrote likewise books about many other topics

A clear example of this are the books of Richard Webster - who is a professional author & speaker... his books score high in the sellings ranks because he writes his books very well - but NOT because of being a professional 'palmist', for he is not a true 'expert' in this field.

lol! In this field one should always be aware of WHO writes WHAT!!

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Post  asif amin on Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:14 am

Thanks for sharing your experience and for your assistance regarding hand research. I appreciate your efforts and Lynn also, both of you my ideal.
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Post  Lynn on Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:40 am

Asif, thank you for your kind words. Thank you!

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:32 pm


hand dance ... Another update for the Amazon Palmistry books TOP 100 is available!!

Ten books (re-)entered the TOP 100 ranking, and the new update includes for the very first time marks for the books that displayed during the past year (2010) a continued raise in popularity (↑↑↑)... or a continued fall in popularity (↓↓↓)!!!


NOTICE: The new TOP-100 banner presents the 15 most popular books... plus a snapshot of the author!

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I hope you will enjoy to take a look at the new rankings:
http://www.handresearch.com/book/palmistry-top-100-amazon-books.htm


And your comments are welcome!! Thank you!

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:34 am

Bump

Are your favourite hand reading books included in the rankings?


NOTICE: Beyond the first 100 titles... 40 other titles have received 'votes' by the experts:
http://www.handresearch.com/book/palmistry-top-100-amazon-books-more.htm

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Post  jeanette on Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:34 pm

Thanks for the update.I have quite a lot of the books mentioned now. Only my opinion but I think the best modern day book is The Spellbinding Power of Palmistry by Johnny Fincham. Thanks for the information about Thanks for the information about Richard Webster. I do not have any of his books. I think you are saying he is good with theory, but practice is another matter. Thanks.
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Post  Martijn (admin) on Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:33 am


Hi Jeanette, thank you for you feedback!

Thanks!

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Post  Liliana on Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:22 am

Martijn (admin) wrote: Bump

Are your favourite hand reading books included in the rankings?


Hey Martjin,

Not as an expert but only as a student I am very happy to see books that I very much like them, included in the rankings:
Johnny Fincham - Spellbinding Power of Palmistry
William G. Benham - The Benham Book of Palmistry
Richard Unger - Life prints
Ronelle Coburn - Destiny at your fingertips
Ghanshyam S. Birla - Destiny in The Palm of Your Hand
Edward D. Campbell - The Encyclopedia of Palmistry
Frank Clifford - Palmistry For Today

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:41 am


Hello Lilliana, thank you for sharing your 'favourites' list!!

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Post  asif amin on Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:34 am

Dear Martijin and Lynn,

Please share your experience and opinion about " The complete encyclopedia of practical palmistry" by Marcel Broekman, published by Granada Publishing Limited in 1981 in New Delhi - India.

I bought this above mentioned book today.
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Post  Martijn (admin) on Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:25 pm


Hi Asif,

First of all I want to not that I am not really familiar with Broekman's work.

But I would like to report that Ed Campbell mentiones in 'The Encyclopedia of Palmistry' a quote from Broekman's book. But unfortunately, that quote indicates to me that one can not rely on Broekman's writings.


Let me explain this by presenting the passage from Ed's book where he mentions Broekman's work. Ed Campbell writes on page 73:

"... In addition to these groups, we have a curious observer, Marcel Broekman, who found 'a whorl in the print of the skin' 'under each finger'. He proposes that the apex of this whorl indicates whether the mount is centered or displaced. Strong qualities are found in mounts where the apex is centrally located. Later we discuss whorls, but they are, as commonly conceived, most likely to be found in fingerprints. Whorls are seldom seen under the fingers. Was Broekman finding whorls indicated by the incomplete pattern of skin ridges above the triradii? Perhaps he sees triradii as whorls. Because of the rarity of whorls as commonly understood under the fingers, his observation is obscure."

I understand what Ed describes here... and I am 100% sure that Broekman's claim that a whorl can be found 'under each finger'... an example of pure speculation by a non-expert.

I can not support the work of authors who describe things that not true.

PS. Broekman's was listed in the previous version of Amazon Palmistry books TOP 100, but his ranking dropped to position 102 - and there for it is for the time being no longer listed in the ranking of the first 100 books.

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Post  asif amin on Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:52 pm

Thanks Martjin for your precious opinion.
Thanks!

Following contents of "The complete encyclopedia of practical palmistry" by Marcel Broekman.


Part 01


Major Hand Determination
Examining the Life Line
The Life line,age determination by age guage
The Life line,Straight, Broken
The Life line,Chained
The Life line,Islands on
The Life line,breaks in
The Life line,breaks in Minor Hand
The Life line,event markings
The Life line,lines sweeping up
The Life line,lines sweeping down
The Life line,lines crossing
The Life line,dots on
The Life line,squares on
The Life line,chained
The Life line,island on
The Life line,breaks in
The Life line,Miscellaneous marks
The Head Line
The Head Line,examining
The Head Line,smooth, unbroken
The Head Line,chained
The Head Line,Islands on
The Head Line,breaks in
The Head Line,abnormal
The Heart Line
The Fate Line,examining
The Fate Line,age markings
The Fate Line,origin of
The Fate Line,Straight, unbroken
The Fate Line,breaks in
The Fate Line,doubling of
The Fate Line,branches from
The Fate Line,branches to
The Fate Line,marking on
The Fate Line,absence of
The Fate Line,termination of
The Sun Line,examining
The Health Line
The Health Line,absence of
The Health Line,deformation of
The Affection Line
Companion Lines
Divorce
Affection LineMarking on
Affection Lines,Multiple
Companion markings to events
The Thumbs, event markings
Illnesses
The Cross
The Grille
The Triangle
The Square
The event meaning of areas,Jupiter
The event meaning of areas,Saturn
The event meaning of areas,Apollo
The event meaning of areas,Mercury
The event meaning of areas,Mars
The event meaning of areas,Venus
The event meaning of areas,Luna

Part 02


The Thumbs
The Fingers, Length
The Fingers, Relative length
The Fingers, Knotted
Fingertips, shape
Nails
Fingertips, width
Finger Phalanges, relatives length
Fingers, Position
Hand shape
The Mounts, character marking
Hand Lines, character markings
Hands, good and bad
Character marking,life line
Character marking,Head line
Character marking,Heart line
Character marking,Fate Line
Character marking,Sun Line
minor character lines
The Mounts, special markings
The Mounts, negative markings
The Mounts, horizontal lines on
horizontal lines on Venus
The Croix Mystique
The Grille
Tassel endings
Illnesses
Combinations of lines and markings


Part 03

Advice to the reader
Abnormal mentality
Achievement
Compatibility
Energy
Future events
Happiness
Haelth
Homosexuality
Logic
Love
Negative Markings
Occupations
Success
Wisdom
Sample readings



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