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Cheiro's books.

Post  inchoate on Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:11 pm

How are Cheiro's books on Palmistry? And what's his place in the history of great palmists, given the legend and the mystique built around him?

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Post  curious on Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:39 pm

There is much criticism of Cheiro as a palmist though he has done more for Palmistry (by bringing it into prominence as an art worthy of further study), then what any one palmist has been able to do.

The criticism is because Cheiro made his predictions by combining palmistry, numerology, astrology and his own clairvoyant skills. So professional palmists who cannot explain his predictions from his palmistry books alone are left short. It is possible that Cheiro intended his books for the beginner and intermediate palmistry study because even in his books when referring to certain lines he mentions that an entire volume could be written on a specific line when he offers only two pages in his book.

Having said all of the above because of Cheiro's writing style I still find Cheiro books to have been the best starting point for me to develop further knowledge and a good base to return to in case there was no better evidence available.

I think we should not evaluate Cheiro as a palmist alone, but if we can, as a clairvoyant and based on his successful predictions (when he was in the prime of his career) he was second to none.

Some further discussion is here:

http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t39-the-hand-of-cheiro-most-famous-palmist-of-all-times-his-short-life-line-theory?highlight=cheiro


Some discussion on Cheiro's work.

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Post  nishaghai on Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:27 am

curious wrote:There is much criticism of Cheiro as a palmist though he has done more for Palmistry (by bringing it into prominence as an art worthy of further study), then what any one palmist has been able to do.

The criticism is because Cheiro made his predictions by combining palmistry, numerology, astrology and his own clairvoyant skills. So professional palmists who cannot explain his predictions from his palmistry books alone are left short. It is possible that Cheiro intended his books for the beginner and intermediate palmistry study because even in his books when referring to certain lines he mentions that an entire volume could be written on a specific line when he offers only two pages in his book.

Having said all of the above because of Cheiro's writing style I still find Cheiro books to have been the best starting point for me to develop further knowledge and a good base to return to in case there was no better evidence available.

I think we should not evaluate Cheiro as a palmist alone, but if we can, as a clairvoyant and based on his successful predictions (when he was in the prime of his career) he was second to none.

Some further discussion is here:

http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t39-the-hand-of-cheiro-most-famous-palmist-of-all-times-his-short-life-line-theory?highlight=cheiro


Some discussion on Cheiro's work.
Hi Cheiro was no doubt good but of course as you said he used combination of astrology palmistry numerology . Now what I fee there are many more books with better approach and description and one is of my father Dayayand Verma All the secrets of palmistry read it
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Post  pravin kumar on Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:35 am

Cheiro was very good and made the subject of Palmistry very popular. But his readings are difficult to interpret as he often gave intuitive responses.

inchoate wrote:How are Cheiro's books on Palmistry? And what's his place in the history of great palmists, given the legend and the mystique built around him?


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Post  Martijn (admin) on Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:28 am

inchoate wrote:How are Cheiro's books on Palmistry? And what's his place in the history of great palmists, given the legend and the mystique built around him?




Even though Cheiro (William John Warner's alias) is today known as probably the most well-known figure in the history of palmistry and despite the fact that many (old fashioned) palmists around the world praise his work, there are actually various (objective) arguments available which provide a solid basis today for describing Cheiro's work not as a recommendation:


1 - Generally, Cheiro's books receive quite a lot of poor user ratings and for some of his books the average user rating can be recognized to be well below the average rating in the field of palmistry. I say this being ware that average user rating for all sorts of books combined is at the rather large Amazon.com and GoodReads.com close to 4,00 (NOTICE: a score below 3.00 should already be recognized to represent a typical score for the poorest performing books in any field).

In february 2017 the average score for Cheiro's most well-known books are:

• Cheiro's Guide To The Hand: 3.67 (Amazon.com: 3,9 / 6, GoodReads.com: 3,63 / 32)
• Palmistry: The Language of The Hand: 3,76 (Amazon.com: 4.3 / 6, GoodReads.com: 3.72 / 79 )
• Cheiro's Palmistry for All: 3.71 (Amazon.com: 3.5 / 2, GoodReads.com: 3.72 / 67)

This suggests that the average score for his most well-known books is only 3,726, which is clearly far below the assumed average score of 4,00.

More details are available in the Palmistry books TOP 100 project.


2 - Cheiro was convicted for fraud in 1909 (that is at the age of 43, only 15 years after he presented his first book on palmistry): this 1909 newspaper describes how Cheiro got himself into serious troubles with the law involving multiple complaints - he was convicted for financial fraud (on old ladies, he was caught in Paris after he was fled for the US to France hoping not to get caught); the report also describes that there were 'other complaints' on him:

Source: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/28870892/


3 - After his conviction Cheiro tried to re-start his career as a palmist with little success; later he claimed that he has lost his 'gift' in 1906:

"Cheiro claimed that he never understood his unique gifts, and he is believed to have lost those in 1906.[citation needed] One charge of mis-handling of a client's money resulted in his being imprisoned. Some accounts of his later life say that after his release from prison, he retained neither his money nor his friends, with his once rich and powerful acquaintances ceasing to want anything to do with him."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheiro#Death


4 - An illustration for the nature of Cheiro's (rather superstitious) work is illustrated by the simple fact that he talked at lot about 'death' + doom and gloom... of course, usually combined with statements in terms of 'success' + money. Therefore Cheiro's work should be recognized belonging to the so-called predictive oriented branch of palmistry... which preceded the so-called personality oriented branch of palmistry that became much more popular today.

Suggestion for further reading: Cheiro's theory involving the life line!


5 - Once might even wonder about Cheiro's dedication for the field of palmistry, because over half of his books involving completely different subjects (involving astrology, numerology & other forms of divination); only 6 out 14 titles (about 43%) of his books involve the subject of palmistry.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheiro#Bibliography


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Post  learner on Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:33 pm

Great Information Martijn.

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:02 pm

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