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On what philosophical backgrounds, we have systematically configurated planetary map in terms of palmistry ?

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On what philosophical backgrounds, we have systematically configurated planetary map in terms of palmistry ?

Post  sv-b on Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:39 pm

Hello experts, Smile

Have you ever thought about how we name the palm systematically like jupiter followed by saturn, sun and mercury fingers in order.,? On what way, These particular planets gets more value than other?

second question is just a common thought. why all fingers are not in equal in length ? does it have any scientifical or philosophical or naturalistic reasons?

Thirdly, Each Finger phalanges has been allegorically compared to the respective zodiac sign? Apart from this, I think that why should jupiter finger stands next to the saturn, and saturn next to the sun, sun next to the mercury? what is the planetary relation between these 4 planets that representing themselves in particular order?! does it has any explanation in either occult science or mythology or philosophy or cosmology or astro-palmistry or astronomy ?

Just share your random thoughts about this topic if you dont know the exact answers.

Infact, I could not guess that under what field of knowledge this questions should be asked? For example, scientifically we cannot answer the question "why do our all fingers varies in it's length". Somehow, Theory of evolution can partially manage to give some answer. but, is any philosophers here to explain what's the nature's plan exactly?


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Re: On what philosophical backgrounds, we have systematically configurated planetary map in terms of palmistry ?

Post  Patti on Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:15 pm

stalin.v (Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:39 am) wrote:
second question is just a common thought. why all fingers are not in equal in length ? does it have any scientifical or philosophical or naturalistic reasons?


Depends on your thoughts about intelligent design, creationism and evolution.

"The basic "morphogenetic rules" for forming a limb appear to be the same in all tetrapods" (Hinchliffe 1991) from Gilbert's "Developmental Biology"

They have an illustration of a chick wing with three long 'digit' bones and have labeled them as II, III, & IV with I and V not found in chick wings. III or the equivilent of the middle finger is the longest.

They explain the development is based on axes of the limb (wing and even fin) involved. Proteins play a role in limb development and are regulated by FGF (fibroblast growth factor) and the different sides or dorsal - ventral are influenced by Wnt7a. Hox genes are involved in the process as well.

You can find more detail in developmental biology books and that may shed light on why in particular the digits grow to allow a generally pointed hand rather than blunt or even long end digits and shorter middle digits.

With the idea of the survival of the fittest, those best able to use this limb probably had a better chance of survival. Flight and navigating bodies of water would likely have fine tuned the birds and sea creatures limbs.

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Re: On what philosophical backgrounds, we have systematically configurated planetary map in terms of palmistry ?

Post  sv-b on Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:32 pm

Hello patti, Smile

Thanks for the explanation! Seems like you stand on the scientifical ground than philosophical ground. Let me explain the necessity of philosophy after responding to your explanations.

Well, you begin to talk about developmental biology, which echos the idea of evolution and embryology. A strong point which you have made is that, morphogenic rules are same to all tetrapods. But, It should be noted that morphogen is just a conceptual context, but not chemical. Here, It would be perfect to explain embryogenesis instead of morphogens. For sure, Every species has more or less different embryo, hence, The embryogenesis and it's cell divisions are not same to all the tetrapods. For example, when you take the morphogen as a example, it is like focusing the common feature of animal cell in general.

I see your explanation reflecting the darwinism rather than developmental biology. Infact, if your above explained concept is true, it will be remain proof for darwin theories. However, Need not to say that darwinism is a evidentless theories. Hence, quite unscientic theories.

Secondly, I dont wish to jump into the creationism immediately as it can explain nothing out of god.

Thirdly, survival of fittess! I dont think nature's plans would be worse than the human's imagination on comic heros. I see 6th sense, rational sense in human through which he dominated the world. His claws or limbs are not powerful like wild animals indeed.

Philosophy explores the path for the safe travelling of science. This is what happened through out the history of science. still it continues. However, I see the explanation about all six senses in ancient tamil literatures which are belongs to B.C periods. Interestingly, Incarnation of vishnu illustratively explains the darwinism. Begining from fish incarnation followed by tortoise, boar, lion, further human. as a evolution . I give this information as a co-relation.

By the way, I welcome all to share your knowledge and ideas with us. Thanks Smile

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Re: On what philosophical backgrounds, we have systematically configurated planetary map in terms of palmistry ?

Post  Martijn (admin) on Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:16 pm

stalin.v wrote:...
second question is just a common thought. why all fingers are not in equal in length ? does it have any scientifical or philosophical or naturalistic reasons?
Hi Stalin & Patti,

Last week Jasmin asked the same question, see:
Why do fingers not have the same measurements?

And I responded in that topic with detailed answer.


By the way, maybe we can continue on that specific 'evoluationary' topic in Jasmin's discussion, and focus Stalin's topic on the astrological aspects. Okay?

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