fate lines and their actual characteristic

i hope the professionals hear me out here...

well i know a snapshot of my hand would probably make my point clear ...but i was kind of wondering about what faint ..fate lines mean in general( and i have seen many)....i have it in my own hand, its not faint
till it reaches the head line after which it stops at my heart line ...as far i see it i interpret it as a sign of lesser influence of my family may be...or some thing which is yet to be decided...

here's something martijn can help me out with... about the fate line which he quotes"In palmistry the fate line is usually associate with the ability to create and follow a life purpose"

because the way i see it i have seen fate lines in hands which kind a give an opposite meaning to it ...maybe modern palmistry has seen changes in this area but fate line does not change its characteristic in many people ...its like the person are bounded to fall
under circumstances unknown to them...circumstances that they dont have any control of..
because i have seen example's in which the person though being focused and determined enough ...does not hold that much strength in their fate lines and then there are people who are exactly the opposite they may have fine fate lines but they are not determined enough..roughly speaking lazy ...the lines they vary so much in these people(and i have observed these people for quite a while now) ...charred or broken to completely fine uninterrupted in some..may be i am being old school here..but i guess the fate line in some do not always denote the tenacity or the will they have...which we all know can be reflected from the thumb it self .

i know in some cases the fate lines does denote strong family support of one's family ...an some case the health (which i am speculative about)...

what i basically ask you guys here is what does the fate line actually denote and to how much degree does it vary.

hope i make sense.

atlantis wrote:i hope the professionals hear me out here...

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here's something martijn can help me out with... about the fate line which he quotes"In palmistry the fate line is usually associate with the ability to create and follow a life purpose"

because the way i see it i have seen fate lines in hands which kind a give an opposite meaning to it ...maybe modern palmistry has seen changes in this area but fate line does not change its characteristic in many people ...

hope i make sense.

Hello atlantis,

Thank you for introducing this topic.

Just to illustrate my earlier comment, I would like to present you a quote from Ed Campbell's 'The Encyclopedia of Palmistry', which concers his first alinea about this line (p.154):

"The Fate Line

The fate line, Saturn line, line of destiny or, as we call it, the personality line, is known to the Indians as one of the oordhava rekhas, and is a minor earth line in the teachings of Wu-Hsing. Only a few would count it as a minor line. Others would count it as probably a major-minor line. It appears to record changes in personality, job and career."


But you're right on that in many people the fate line usually doesn't show many changes in time (though that is just a typical characteristics of the major lines).

I also would like to add that in an exploring study by Psychologist Rowan Bayne (UK) the starting point of the fate line has been associated with "feelings of early life restrictions" (when the fate line is connected with the life line).

Bayne's study was titled: "Chirology: the hands and personality" (on the internet you will not find much more info about his study, but a few years ago he send me a copy of his study).

I hope this second answer will become more useful for you.

hey martijn thanks for the reply

i kinda had that idea too..changes in job ..in personality do fit ...obviously we have seen changes in this regard ...haven't we ..when the person may move out of a country or change occupation...but what about when they lose their original depth and become more faint almost disappearing in some cases...lesser influence may be...lack of energy...see when i mention faint ...its does not become coarse or charred..or broken.. its just not that deep ...enough..or noticeable ..i'll try if i can post some images in these couple of days.

here some information that i got from the net :

"A deep and strongly-etched Fate line represents a person who settles
down into a disciplined pattern of life quite early. On the other hand, a
weak or faint fate line suggests a person who is restless and tends to change jobs quite often."

"When the Line of Fate is extremely faint or just barely traced through
the palm, it will be found to indicate a general disbelief in the idea of
Fate and Destiny. It is often found on the hands of very materialistic
persons, those who rebel against the idea that they are governed in any
way by Fate or by any power save themselves.

and When this is found, and at the same time a good clear Line of Head, such
people will be sure to win success by their mentality alone, but the
details of their destiny will not be able to be told, and one must
content oneself with chiefly describing their characteristics,
peculiarities, etc."


faint fate line : dislikes routine and prefers to let things run its
own course


the second explanation does seem logical enough...what do you think ?

Hello atlantis,

Thank you for presenting a quote from the world wide web - but in general it is usually helpfull to mention the source (name of the author, name of the website, or a direct link to the page where you found the info).


And yes, I think the interpretations described in the quote makes sense in the perspective of what is usually written about the fate line in the palmistry literature.


... My first addition would be to notice that an incomplete- or missing fate line is often found in rather unsophisticated hands (often these can be described as an 'elementary hand type' or 'earth hand type').

So, especially in a rather refined hand the missing of a fate line is more remarkable than in a course hand - where it is relatively common.

What I am trying to say here is that ... one will have to consider:

'What are the implications of a missing fate line?'

In a perfect hand, the missing of a fate line can work out as a big problem (for example it can result in a depression because they have no sense of direction in their live, no belief, no leading motive, etc.).

While in an imperfect hand the implications might be less severe (for example it can result in acting featured with a waiste of energy with little results, no focuss, and no reserves to overwin troubles).


So, in general, I think there are no simple answers in palmistry ... yes, there are theoretical concepts (such as the 'quote' that you found on the web).

But when it comes to interpretation, should try to the missing of a fate line the perspective of the most important features of a hand.

I thope this makes sense to you as well!?

Martijn

In our area its also called luck line .I laos call it line of life style.

Yes,hand print is adviseable for accuracy.

GM

atlantis wrote:hey martijn thanks for the reply

i kinda had that idea too..changes in job ..in personality do fit ...obviously we have seen changes in this regard ...haven't we ..when the person may move out of a country or change occupation...but what about when they lose their original depth and become more faint almost disappearing in some cases...lesser influence may be...lack of energy...see when i mention faint ...its does not become coarse or charred..or broken.. its just not that deep ...enough..or noticeable ..i'll try if i can post some images in these couple of days.

here some information that i got from the net :

"A deep and strongly-etched Fate line represents a person who settles
down into a disciplined pattern of life quite early. On the other hand, a
weak or faint fate line suggests a person who is restless and tends to change jobs quite often."

"When the Line of Fate is extremely faint or just barely traced through
the palm, it will be found to indicate a general disbelief in the idea of
Fate and Destiny. It is often found on the hands of very materialistic
persons, those who rebel against the idea that they are governed in any
way by Fate or by any power save themselves.

and When this is found, and at the same time a good clear Line of Head, such
people will be sure to win success by their mentality alone, but the
details of their destiny will not be able to be told, and one must
content oneself with chiefly describing their characteristics,
peculiarities, etc."


faint fate line : dislikes routine and prefers to let things run its
own course


the second explanation does seem logical enough...what do you think ?

Hi GM,

Recently I've seen a hand with very clear fire (fate) line. He is ~30 years old and hasn't ever held a steady job and is just travelling around. Also seen clear fate line on the hand of a hippy who was literally stoned morning-to-dusk, a drifter of sort. I asked myself the same question that you are asking. Fincham defines this line as fire line with metaphor to fire-wall as in computer terminology. Interestingly both people seemed to have strong character and strong opinions (though not very strong goals). They seemed to be able to filter external impressions/input just like firewall does.

Boaz

I agree with the last posting....I'm not sure how accurate the fate line can be in determining if someone has a solid career or if they are just drifting in life. I notice that my mom has a strong fate line in her 60s and she has been retired for many years now. I also notice someone who has a great career and has no fate line!
I think shape and depth of fate line meaning might just be specific to the person whose hand it is on. It doesn't seem like you can apply a general rule for how a fate line looks and what that means. It seems like it can mean a lot of different things on different hands.

I agree with many of the above comments, my personal experience with this line is that when it is clearly etched, the person knows what they want and are set in their ways, whether it is being a dedicated mother or a dedicated doctor. The line being weak, broken or missing often occurs when the person does not really know what they want out of life. If the line starts strong and then weakens, the person has gone through something which has affected their motivation or they are wishing for a change.

The directional longitudinal transverse much related to ‘luck’ or ‘destiny’ is usually called ‘Fate Line’. Generally, it proceed towards under the middle finger which denotes your overall career satisfaction and how you've fulfilled your life's purpose. If it becomes deeper and stronger as it proceeds ahead; the more you feel satisfied with your career. A weak fate line shows that you have not fulfilled your ambitions; a wavy line means you have wavered in your dedication and spread your energies.

If the fate line is weakening as it proceeds this means you are gradually losing interest in your main work and that you are somewhat getting bored and therefore finding the work less satisfactory. A long and clear fate line can mean a career with the same company for a long period. The mount of Saturn is the traditional place for ending for the fate line, and those who have it have a secure sense of direction and purpose. Fingerprints here denote money issues.

We can regard ‘luck’ as a term implying with certainly some directional purpose, but, this is much related to ‘chances’ over which we have little or no control. And ‘destiny’ is linked with “fixed directional trend”. Beware, destiny is prewritten and to be changed because fingerprints are fixed and lines change.

By keeping aside the traditional ‘fellowship’, association or meaning of ‘fate’ and ‘destiny’; we can accept it as a “final result”. Finality must be measured in personal terms that are relative to the framework the “final result”. We must accept and believe the fact whether we like it or not, that our personal’ destiny’ is the ultimate crystallization of ourselves.


By using human hands and understanding what they indicate, we can control shape or alter the “final result”. This is a gauge
that denotes the individual materialistic aspects and its length and characteristic, is determined by the environmental experiences in our childhood or even before our birth.


We need good brain (head line) to guide us, good health (life line) to support us and good environment to help us in deciding how to react or how we take the things. It is a universal truth that environment is greater than man/woman which definitely influences us and our destiny. Therefore, I usually say no line or mark is absolute in itself on the palms of the human hands and these must be analyzed in totality.

In general, you can say, the Fate Line indicates the degree of individual satisfaction with the conditions of living. Yes, both in the material and in the more personal and emotional sense. Persons can be successful and satisfied without a good Fate Line too, but, not in a specific field. He or she will be like a ship without a rudder, buffeted first one way, then another. Changing lines are the barometers of our changing attitudes and experiences.


Parender Sethi

Hi,
I have noticed a clear line on the hands of beggers also!
So, his direction is set for tomorrow - He knows that tomo' morning he will get up and go for begging.
In other words, a Saturn line, sets a direction to our life.
About the ppl in whose hands the line wasn't present - they are sure that they might not want to continue with this job tomorrow.

Warm Regards,
Kiran