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Post  Helen on Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:05 pm

Hello members of Modern hand reading forum,
Finally things slowed down at my end and I am able to join forum discussions again Smile

Thinking about palmistry and human psychology I came over the question: "Can human palm show dyslexia?"

I know that by some palm futures we can assume ADD, Autism, ets, but how about Dyslexia???

Anyone?


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Post  Helen on Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:31 pm

Ok, so far I found a relationship between Sydney Line and Dyslexia. see link below

http://www.handresearch.com/news/the-sydney-line-fascinating-hand-crease-handmark.htm#resources
(Thank you Martijin, your site was very helpful for that matter (and many others Smile)

That relationship kind of makes sense, but there should be more elements that could represent dyslexia. I was thinking that chained and long Head Line could be a signed too.

Any thoughts anyone???????? Anyone
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Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:59 am


Hi Helen,

Great question... but so far I am hardly able to provide you any solid answers.


>> My short answer would be... I think that there is still very little known about the hand in dyslexia.


>> My longer answer would be...

What I know about dyslexia is that first of all, it should be recognized as a rather complex neurological disorder, and I belief that the diagnosis-proces for this disorder is even far more complex than for example in autism or schizophrenia.

Let me explain...

From what I have seen and read so far related to the hand in dyslexia... I have the opinion that it is extremely difficult to 'recognize' dyslexia from any hand. Because, despite the results that were reported in the studies mentioned above, I believe that there is a very thin line between on the one side: relatively normal learning problem, plus: reading- & writing errors; and on the other side the disorder named 'dyslexia'.

One could even say that even after a few decades of scientific research, neurological experts are still debating the essential characteristics of this disorder. And one should also be aware that some some 'wonderful' claims related to the treatment of dyslexia, are usually not supported by a wide range of scientific studies (and quite a few of those claims have not 'survived the test-of-time' - due to various reasons).

On my website various sources are mentioned which describe a relationship with some rather general 'typical' hand characteristics, such as:

- Ed Campbell & Johnny Fincham has spotted a connection with the Sydney line (on the page that you mentioned):
http://www.handresearch.com/news/the-sydney-line-fascinating-hand-crease-handmark.htm#resources

- John Manning & his collegues has spotted a connection with the low 2D:4D digit ratio
http://www.handresearch.com/news/double-digits.htm

- And in another scientific study dyslexia was associated with 'asymmetric dermatoglyphics':
http://www.handresearch.com/course/psychology-5.htm

- And additionally, there is also a connection between left-handedness & dyslexia (see the paragraph 'Unusual facts'):
http://www.handresearch.com/news/left-handed-people-are-intelligent-and-creative.htm


Finally, I have small collection of dyslexia prints (about 25 cases) waiting to become a topic in my plans to launch another new topic on my website: 'scientific hand reading'. A few years ago I made some attempts to study these handprints (together with a group of Dutch hand analysts), but backthen we were not able to find an agreement about the results - from my point of view.


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Post  Helen on Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:15 pm

Martijin wrote:
"Finally, I have small collection of dyslexia prints (about 25 cases) waiting to become a topic in my plans to launch another new topic on my website: 'scientific hand reading'"

Hi Martijin,
Can you please check for me if any of your collection of dyslexia prints share combination of below futures:
Combination 1:
1. Memory Loop (loop that is comming down from Head Line or Appolo Line)
2. Loop of Serious intent

Combination 2:
1. Loop of nature
2. Loop of Humor

I think that since in most cases dyslexia is a gynetic dissorder, then there should be some connection with dermotological futures and possibly their combinations.

Of course, I would like to know if your prints of dyslexcis all have Sydney Line

thank you in advance

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:27 pm

Helen wrote:
Of course, I would like to know if your prints of dyslexcis all have Sydney Line
Hi Helen,

First of all, thank you for your suggestions!

I can answer your last question from the top of my mind:

Only a couple of the persons in my sample have a Sydney line - but the percentage is probably not much higher then what is on average seen in the general population; so the answer to your very specific question is a simple:

'No, not all persons have a Sydney line' (only a relatively small minority, not sure about the percentage).'


Regarding your other questions related to the palmar dermatoglyphics... can you please describe why you are thinking about these combinations? You haven't explained why you are thinking about these combinations.

(From the top of my mind: a few years ago I have considered all major dermatoglyphic characteristics but I didn't find any uncommon occurence, so even if a few of the people in my sample have the characteristics that you described... the percentage will probably not go beyond the percentages seen in the general population).

So, I am willing to give it a try... but only if you found yourself any considerable evidence regarding the combinations that you described.

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PS. Basically, I have so many research projects running... I prefer to first see a promising new clue before investing any research time on that the dyslexia topic right now.

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Post  Helen on Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:51 pm

Hi Martijn,
Thank you for your reply. I am not that experienced in psychology or palmistry, so I do not think that my thought would give you any promising new clue.

Based of my small (not professional) research, I came to realization that dyslexia has something to do with individual's perception. It is not that people cannot learn how to read or write, it is just their brain perceives information slightly differently. That is why their educational progress is slower then in non-dyslexics in some areas. In many cases that process develops certain set of actions that helps dyslexics to blend in and succeed in the real world.

So my first thoughts were to find a dermatological signs that would relate to combination of perception and action.

Memory Loop - perception
Loop of Serious intent - action

Loop of Nature - perception
Loop of Humor - action

It is just a thought, not even a theory Smile But I am planing to eventually expand it to serious study. Just the same was as I am working on the palms of Martial Artist.

Let me know if my thought has any sense to you Smile





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