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How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

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How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Wed May 25, 2011 8:50 pm



During the past months I have noticed that many people experience problems with discriminating a simian line from other unusual hand line types (such as the Sydney line, Suwon crease and the extended heart line).

In the following article I describe the essential characteristics of these lines, featured with a short historical review focussed on the significance of each of those lines in medical scientific perspective:

http://palmreadingperspectives.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/how-to-classify-the-palmar-lines-the-simian-line-sydney-line-the-suwon-crease/


I hope that the picture (above) + descriptions will become usefull to recognize the essential differences between these 4 fundamentally different variants of the 'transversal palmar creases' - which all relate to the COMBINATION of the heart line & the head line!

Your comments are welcome...!


PS. A high quality version of the picture is available HERE.

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  sv-b on Wed May 25, 2011 9:07 pm

Hello martijn, Smile

Thanks for illustrating the variances of transverse palmar crease. But i find difficulty in discriminate the extended heart line with suwon crease and it would be helpful if you explain a bit about 'what does each of this variants infer in palmistry'? (especially suwon crease and extended heart line infers?) Smile

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Wed May 25, 2011 10:54 pm


Hi Stalin,

Yes, I recognize the importance of your question ( Thumbs up! ):

Regarding the difference between the 'extended heart line' and the 'Suwon crease'... the fundamental difference concerns that in the first there is just one (long) heart line + one normal head line involved, while in a Suwon crease the hand should display evidence of a fusion of two lines + one normal head line.

But one also has to be aware that many heart lines show a 'splitting'. And regarding the 'Suwon crease', one should understand here that any 'Suwon crease' may look (at first sight) like a 'splitting'.




The following 2 tips should make you able to recognize the difference:

- Therefore it probably requires some experience in analysing the details of heart lines & head lines, in order to be able to discriminate a 'splitting' (where the 2 resulting lines typically look weaker than the first homogenous part) from a fusion of two lines.

- And regarding the second head line: one should also look for similarities with the other head line.


So, if you understand what I have just described... hopefully you will now be able to recognize the fundamental differences between both variants, which is a requirement to discriminate an 'extended heart line' from a 'Suwon crease'.

Have I answered your question?

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Pamelah on Thu May 26, 2011 12:24 am

Martijn, how is the Suwon line different from a split heart line that has the split under Saturn, with an extension to Jupiter? If I saw that I would call this a split heart line with Hermt and Romantic Idealist.

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Lynn on Thu May 26, 2011 12:38 am

Martijn - Thumb up

Pamelah - I understand what you are asking. Re the Suwon crease we only have that one scientific paper to look at - as discussed here
http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t199-report-korean-researchers-discovered-the-suwon-crease-only-observed-in-males

But that gives us no interpretation to use as handreaders! In practical handreading, like you I would tell clients about the forked heartline - in your terms the Hermit & Romantic Idealist type of lines. By the way Pamelah, thanks for your heartlines blog - I have included a link to it in my updated handreading course, and talk about your useful terminology in the heartline lesson. Thanks!

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Pamelah on Thu May 26, 2011 12:52 am

Lynn wrote:Martijn -

Pamelah - I understand what you are asking. Re the Suwon crease we only have that one scientific paper to look at - as discussed here
http://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t199-report-korean-researchers-discovered-the-suwon-crease-only-observed-in-males

thanks clarifying Lynn. I think I'll stick with the heart line forked conversation since there isn't a conversation about what it means. It has to be similar to that anyway!

But that gives us no interpretation to use as handreaders! In practical handreading, like you I would tell clients about the forked heartline - in your terms the Hermit & Romantic Idealist type of lines. By the way Pamelah, thanks for your heartlines blog - I
have included a link to it in my updated handreading course, and talk about your useful terminology in the heartline lesson.


Wow! Thanks Lynn. I'm glad it's so useful. That was my desire!

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu May 26, 2011 12:54 am

Pamelah wrote:Martijn, how is the Suwon line different from a split heart line that has the split under Saturn, with an extension to Jupiter? If I saw that I would call this a split heart line with Hermt and Romantic Idealist.


Hello Pamelah!! wave


I have described a few clues in my response to Stalin, but I can add a few elements. The essential between a Suwon crease and a 'split heart line' is found in the 'structure' of the line:

- Only if the structure of the line under discussion is likewise strong as the lower head line AND if the line is at least equal (or stronger) than the radial part of the heart line... then it meets all requirements to be called a Suwon crease.

- However, if the line has a likewise structure as seen in the upper part of the heart line AND when it is clearly weaker than the lower head line... then it can simply be described as a 'splitting heart line' - and if the lower branch of the splitting heart line is reaching out to the radial side of the palm, then one can describe it as an 'extended heart line variant' that is featured with a 'splitting'.

So this really requires a consideration of the structure of both the other heart line parts + the structure of the head line.

Pamelah, have I been able to answer your question?

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu May 26, 2011 12:55 am

Lynn wrote:
Martijn - Thumb up

Lynn... Thanks!

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Pamelah on Thu May 26, 2011 1:00 am

Yes, Martijn. You answered it and as Lynn pointed out, what does it mean?

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  jeanette on Thu May 26, 2011 11:36 am

I think I understand this Suwon Crease now. It must have a second head line, separate from the first, not joined, which joins the heart line. If it wasn't for this second head line appearing it would be a straightforward hand. As for what it means in palmistry interpretation Patti gave a long and interesting theory and thought it was getting to grip with things.
Also Martijin what about the Hal 600 or is it 900. Thanks,
Jeanette.

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu May 26, 2011 9:35 pm

jeanette wrote:I think I understand this Suwon Crease now. It must have a second head line, separate from the first, not joined, which joins the heart line. If it wasn't for this second head line appearing it would be a straightforward hand. ....


Hi Jeanette,

Yes, sounds like my new picture was helpfull for you to understand the essential element: you've described it in your own words very well!

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  jeanette on Thu May 26, 2011 9:38 pm

Thanks Martijin,
But what is the Hal 600 or 900.
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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu May 26, 2011 9:46 pm

Pamelah wrote:Yes, Martijn. You answered it and as Lynn pointed out, what does it mean?


Hi Pamelah,

Sorry... I think your question regarding the meaning is a little bit too early: because we can only speculate about this, or present 'theoretical' interpretations.


So far I have the impression that this line variant could be found more often in the hands of 'intelligent Beta-oriented males' with an introvert personality or a not very social oriented nature.

I also think that this line variant has a more positive nature than the simian line & the Sydney line (which both are known in medical science as a 'minor physical anomaly').

scratch ... However, I do have reasons to think that the Suwon crease could also be significant marker for Asperger's syndrome (= the high-functioning variant of Autism).


But these are just a few associations based on the populations that I have studied so far.


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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu May 26, 2011 9:51 pm

jeanette wrote:Thanks Martijin,
But what is the Hal 600 or 900.
Jeanette.


Hi Jeanette,

You probably are reffering to Richard Unger's 'Hal 9000 head line', see:
http://www.handresearch.com/news/gift-markings-in-your-hand.htm

The 'Hal 9000 head line' is a very long head line which ends at a location below the center of the middle little finger... but this head line variant does not cross the full palm: because it does not end at the side of the palm like seen in the Sydney line.

So... the 'Hal 9000 head line' is a little bit SHORTER than the Sydney line!

Does this make sense now as well?

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Re: How to discriminate a simian crease from a Sydney line and a Suwon crease!

Post  Lynn on Thu May 26, 2011 10:16 pm

Martijn (admin) wrote:
The 'Hal 9000 head line' is a very long head line which ends at a location below the center of the middle finger...[/color]


Martijn, that should be little finger.

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