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Post  nonas_insights on Mon May 30, 2011 11:41 am

Hi
In the 18 years during which I have read palms and hands I have now found a sign in the head line that invariably points to damage done to the brain through drug-taking, eg marijuana, heroin. Marijuana is not a soft drug and leaves the same damage as heroin. The sign is also the same for people who have a brain tumour.
Upon questioning my client I have pinpointed the age when the damage occurred. For your interest the sign is literally, a chunk missing from the head line. The line then picks itself up again after the damaging age. When I have encountered young people with this chunk missing and edged towards discussing how vulnerable they are to drugs and then specified which one I believe they have played with, they are shocked and admit it. My warning is rather graphic, and possibly a bit much, but how else can we make an impact to suggest the dangerous thing they do to themselves? I have been prone to tell them that they have "split their brain in half." I'm thinking I have to say this more gently, but really want people to know the harm they do themselves with drugs.
Anyone out there found similar?
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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Patti on Mon May 30, 2011 3:35 pm

nonas_insights wrote:Hi
In the 18 years during which I have read palms and hands I have now found a sign in the head line that invariably points to damage done to the brain through drug-taking, eg marijuana, heroin. Marijuana is not a soft drug and leaves the same damage as heroin. The sign is also the same for people who have a brain tumour.
Upon questioning my client I have pinpointed the age when the damage occurred. For your interest the sign is literally, a chunk missing from the head line. The line then picks itself up again after the damaging age. When I have encountered young people with this chunk missing and edged towards discussing how vulnerable they are to drugs and then specified which one I believe they have played with, they are shocked and admit it. My warning is rather graphic, and possibly a bit much, but how else can we make an impact to suggest the dangerous thing they do to themselves? I have been prone to tell them that they have "split their brain in half." I'm thinking I have to say this more gently, but really want people to know the harm they do themselves with drugs.
Anyone out there found similar?
Nona
in Adelaide, South Australia

Hi Nona!
Welcome to the forum and it's nice to meet you.

I wonder if the chunk was missing prior to the drug use and the drug use is a form of "self medicating".

Wonder if any of our Netherland members have spent any time doing readings at or outside of the 'cafes' where pot smoking is legal? I recently read that the cafes were becoming more restricted to members only - which would probably be the heavy smokers.

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Patti on Mon May 30, 2011 3:41 pm

nonas_insights wrote:My warning is rather graphic, and possibly a bit much, but how else can we make an impact to suggest the dangerous thing they do to themselves? I have been prone to tell them that they have "split their brain in half." I'm thinking I have to say this more gently, but really want people to know the harm they do themselves with drugs.

Hope they weren't too high when you informed them...that could make for a really bad 'trip'. flower

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comment on your observation

Post  nonas_insights on Mon May 30, 2011 9:14 pm

Patti -
yes, the sign could have been there earlier - and in fact it was for the 40 year old woman in whose hand I made the observation of the dramatic damage her brain had undergone at age 25. She said she'd been doing heroin then, but was now clean. And as you know the hand registers significant events, past, present, and possible trends for the future.

The geography of the hand is endlessly fascinating...

Having once been given a cookie unknowingly and having had the worst possible reaction to it I am a staunch crusader against the stuff.
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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  kiwihands on Tue May 31, 2011 12:46 am

Hi Nona,

I have personally lost two friends to drugs (not lost as in dead, but as in "lost their minds") and can understand you "crusading against the stuff"!
Thumb up

However, I can't confirm your observation that a gap in the headline "invariably points to damage done to the brain through drug-taking". What about other kinds of brain damage or psychological problems that also show up as gaps? And the other way around, what about all the people who took drugs in their youth, or still do, but have excellent headlines? I have examples for both in my circle of friends and acquaintances.

Though I would be quite intrigued by the outcome of a study that looked at the hands of people who frequent Dutch pot smoking cafes. I'd expect some messy headlines for sure, but also maybe weak thumbs, presence of an allergy line, etc.

In general, I'd say there are usually deeper seated issues with drug-addicts and telling them they are destroying their brains would be neither news to them nor inspire them to deal with the problem - as low self-worth and self-destructive behaviour is often part of the deeper issues that led to the person taking drugs in the first place.

Definitely a multifaceted issue ...

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Lynn on Tue May 31, 2011 1:16 am

good posts Patti & kiwi You said some things that I was thinking but hadn't yet got around to writing! Thumbs up!
Thanks for bringing up this topic Nona.

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Patti on Tue May 31, 2011 1:32 am

Nona sent this message earlier and since she said she tried to post it here, I'll go ahead and post.

Hi Patti,
thanks for your observation. I wanted to reply publicly but haven't worked out how to do it yet.

Yes, the chunk might have been missing earlier.
But then again I was reading the hand for the woman aged 40 and I asked her what was the major event at age 25, because I'd never seen a chunk missing before in the headline (it was about 8mm long) and she said she'd been doing heroin but was now clean. So the headline had continued after her addiction finished.

About lines being there earlier:- the sign for cancer in the hands is there at least 10 years before diagnosis, and can be found on the life-line.
Kind regards,
Nona

(p.s.: I did explain briefly how to reply.)

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Patti on Tue May 31, 2011 1:35 am

I replied:

Hi Nona,
You should be able to either click on "quote" over my post or "reply" and another page opens.

Thanks for explaining.
I've also seen such thinning out of the creases, more often on the life line during a time of extreme stress, long illness, bad marriage etc. and then thicken once the person gets past the events and heals or recuperates.

There are several ways of using timing in the hands and some of us have found timing the head line - as per events - isn't reliable. I do however find timing the life line and the fate line does work.

In the woman's hands you mention, I was curious if before that person was involved in drugs (and it obviously was a time in life they wanted to escape reality) if the line was normal and became thin during the episode and then stayed that way. As you say showing the damage that might have been done.

Regarding cancer, I have seen circles on the life line and small groups of circles inside the life line that look like a bunch of grapes. After cancer treatment and the cancer is gone or in remission, the grape like clusters fade away and the circle becomes open rather than complete and is faded.

I haven't noticed triangles in association with cancer, but I'd like to see a picture for clarity.

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Patti on Tue May 31, 2011 1:37 am

Lynn wrote:good posts Patti & kiwi You said some things that I was thinking but hadn't yet got around to writing! Thumbs up!
Thanks for bringing up this topic Nona.

Yes I particularly like your post Kiwi! Good insights!

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  kiwihands on Tue May 31, 2011 1:47 am

Patti wrote:
Lynn wrote:good posts Patti & kiwi You said some things that I was thinking but hadn't yet got around to writing! Thumbs up!
Thanks for bringing up this topic Nona.

Yes I particularly like your post Kiwi! Good insights!

Thanks Lynn and Patti! Smile

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Drug taking damage in the hands

Post  nonas_insights on Tue May 31, 2011 8:33 am

Thanks ladies for your comments.

Indeed my mission is not frighten people, but to make very aware of the dangers of drug taking.

The line in my client's hand was "well" before the years on heroin and "well" after. In fact there was no weakness in the line afterwards. I see weakness as a thin line or too red a line in terms of too much intensity, but of course that depends on which sort of hand has these markings.

I will observe further the other suggestions put here.

Is there a book out there very specific for health?
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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:50 pm

nonas_insights wrote:Hi
In the 18 years during which I have read palms and hands I have now found a sign in the head line that invariably points to damage done to the brain through drug-taking, eg marijuana, heroin. Marijuana is not a soft drug and leaves the same damage as heroin. The sign is also the same for people who have a brain tumour.
Upon questioning my client I have pinpointed the age when the damage occurred. For your interest the sign is literally, a chunk missing from the head line. The line then picks itself up again after the damaging age. When I have encountered young people with this chunk missing and edged towards discussing how vulnerable they are to drugs and then specified which one I believe they have played with, they are shocked and admit it. My warning is rather graphic, and possibly a bit much, but how else can we make an impact to suggest the dangerous thing they do to themselves? I have been prone to tell them that they have "split their brain in half." I'm thinking I have to say this more gently, but really want people to know the harm they do themselves with drugs.
Anyone out there found similar?
Nona
in Adelaide, South Australia

nonas_insights wrote:Patti -
yes, the sign could have been there earlier - and in fact it was for the 40 year old woman in whose hand I made the observation of the dramatic damage her brain had undergone at age 25. She said she'd been doing heroin then, but was now clean. And as you know the hand registers significant events, past, present, and possible trends for the future.

The geography of the hand is endlessly fascinating...

Having once been given a cookie unknowingly and having had the worst possible reaction to it I am a staunch crusader against the stuff.
Nona wave

nonas_insights wrote:Thanks ladies for your comments.

Indeed my mission is not frighten people, but to make very aware of the dangers of drug taking.

The line in my client's hand was "well" before the years on heroin and "well" after. In fact there was no weakness in the line afterwards. I see weakness as a thin line or too red a line in terms of too much intensity, but of course that depends on which sort of hand has these markings.

I will observe further the other suggestions put here.

Is there a book out there very specific for health?
Nona

Hello Nona Smile ,

(Sorry for this rather late response!)


First of all, thank you for your posts... and I understand & appreciate your 'crusade' again drugs (ab)use. Myself, I don't drink alcoholics - nor have I ever tried any drugs.

However... I do would like to make a few notes here:


1 - What you described as a 'chunk missing from the headline'... I notice that you are explicitely talking about a 'chunk', so I assume that you are not talking about any kind of interruption in the head line with an 'overlap' between the two parts.

Yes, what you literally described is indeed a rare characteristic!


2 - Permanent brain damage can only be associated with LONG TERM drugs abuse (which requires the regular use of drugs during a period of multiple years).


3 - I think that what you've described so far... does not provide an indication that any 'gap' in the head line can be associated directly with permanent brain damage. Patti, asked you the essential question... the 'chunk missing' may have been present before the abuse took place. And I can confirm that over the years many very experienced palmists have found/confirmed that it is hardly possible to 'time' events/episode in the palmar lines.

This implicates... that your observation may very well be the result of just COINCIDENCE.

And because unusual characteristics in the major palmar lines are often 'inborn', which implicates that your horrifying suggestions that a 'chunk missing from the headline' is 'invariably points to damage done to the brain through drug-taking' ... is very likely not true at all.


For, since from what you've described so far... you appear not to be in the position to diagnose/observe brain damage in (long term) drug abusers ... and therefore your theory becomes actually an act of putting 'irresponsible' stress on the minds of people who have the charateristic that you've described.


Nona, I hope this makes sense... but I would not be surprized if you do understand what I am trying to say here, because I noticed that you already made yourself a comment about that your 'mission is not frighten people'.

But for me it is quite obvious: this is a 'horrifying' unfounded theory... that might very well put a huge amount of stress on people who have the chacteristic that you've described.

I wish you good luck on your 'mission'... but I think it would be much better to re-formulate your theory by excluding the part about (permanent) brain damage. Because that part of your theory is an example of pure speculation, without any direct evidence at all... and therefore it is only a 'believe'.


Finally, regarding your question: "Is there a book out there very specific for health?", I think you might be interested in the books listed in my 'Multi-Perspective Palm Reading' project:
http://www.multiperspectivepalmreading.com/palm-reading-books.htm

Thanks!


PS. Pharmaceutic drug therapy used for a cancer treatment can make the palmar lines look weaker, but that effect is not limitted to any specific location in the hand... and after the therapy the lines usually become stronger again.

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  kiwihands on Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:09 pm

Thumb up Martijn!

I was thinking along those same lines, but couldn't have put it as well as you did.

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:23 pm


Thanks Kiwi, nice to hear that you had likwise thoughts on your mind.... Very Happy

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Lynn on Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:12 am

kiwihands wrote: Thumb up Martijn!

I was thinking along those same lines, but couldn't have put it as well as you did.

me too.

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  tap on Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:16 am

Martijn, Kiwi and Lynn,

I too feel the same way. It kinda took me back to one of my first posts (at PI) with questions on my son’s headline ( he has never taken any drugs or drank).

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Re: Drug-taking damage in the hands

Post  Lynn on Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:42 am

Nona, are you able to post a picture of what you describe as 'a chunk missing from the head line.' I think your description speaks for itself, but I'd like to see an example if possible.

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