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Post  waqar.an on Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:47 pm

Here is an exorcist's hands pics. You may pull out some good information. I will also try my best to decode this print for other's good. Be careful though....and do not catch attentions of unwanted spirits...Very Happy




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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  zeblethai on Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:29 pm

this may be obvious but I've noticed that people with strong religious beliefs often have a double joined thumb. I've observed that Gandhi has similar flexibility, his is much greater than the exorcists (of course). I think one would have to be set in their ways to be an exorcist, as he is shown to be.

I found an interesting article regarding Exorcism and Multiple personality disorder or DID (PC term) it is not a palm reading article though.

the link http://www.fortea.us/english/psiquiatria/disorder.htm

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  Felicity Martin on Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:27 am

Hi Zeblethal

I would have to reserve my judgement and this is no way is meant to undermine the person whose prints appear in this question, as it would be important to look at each 'exorcism' to justify alleged skills or whether it involves some poor individual who has been judged as 'being possessed' by those with no skills or knowledge of psychological disorders.
Also, I would need to see a much clearer picture of the hands and lines as well as the view from the reverse side of the hand to assess whether and what type of hand it is, the nails, the wrinkles on knuckles and whether there are a lot of stars on them as well.

I have personally seen and heard of serious damage done here is Australia by those, not well qualified both in religious doctrine or sound medical knowledge, commit atrocities on those, often vulnerable youths and children, whose parents- often neurotic, go to churches where those in charge are more focused on generating hysterical responses than easing people with undermined sense of self.

On the other hand, I have also experienced contact from sources, whose information, knowledge and capacity to generate phenomena, lead me to, in those cases, suspend my sense of disbelief and recognise there are areas we should approach with a very high degree of caution.

This involved, in one case, a young entity, who died in 1800's, on our property and a neighbour's property, making friends with both our and our neighbour's children and causing massive problems as he resented parental concerns. We saw fires spontaneously light, a spanner thrown across the room nearly killing Greg, our neighbour, a horrific takeover of his daughter with her face changing, dangerous issues with machinery including my husband nearly being killed... the child had died, we found out from our local historian, after removing the brake on the carriage on the old gold road on the back of our property, resulting in the carriage crashing into the creek- it was still there. The trouble started when our neighbour, who was on the old Bonython grave yard, unwittingly had added a bathroom, which was where the boy was buried. To add a final touch of the creeps, the child was John Martin- our family name!
In our home he would play with music boxes and clocks- one one occasion the girls (8,9 years) were watching Labyrinth( I think that was the title) and when the clock struck midnight, an old clock, which had not worked for 50 years, starting chiming, frightening them... resonance frequency- maybe.... but the music boxes , broken, starting playing during the early hours of the morning, I don't think so.
It got so bad, with three families impacted, that we got a Hindu Monk- after other failures, to come up and exorcise him. We had had sighting of other entities, in fact there is a book written on the ghosts in our area, due to, according to the monk, a massive energy line running from Mt Barker to Mt Compass. He said this caused entities to be trapped and increasing psychological problems.
We had other ghosts, a woman carrying a child who was murdered , a young boy of 5 who we found had tragically died after falling into a lime pit, while watching the family crop and scaring away the galahs.
Interestingly the Ngarranjeri people feared the Mount, known to them as Wommamakurta, because there was a spirit bird who would fly to the people to tell of the coming death or death of family. They would pass through this mount on the dream journey after death.

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  Lynn on Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:10 am

wow Felicity, thanks for sharing your amazing experiences!

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zeblethai wrote:this may be obvious but I've noticed that people with strong religious beliefs often have a double joined thumb.
I have seen 'double jointed' (edit - hyperflexible) thumbs many times in the hands of people from the spiritualist church, and also people who have (potentially) conflicting spiritual/religious views eg the catholic who was also a wiccan, the C of E who became a Sufi.


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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  zeblethai on Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:47 am

I have personally seen and heard of serious damage done here is Australia by those, not well qualified both in religious doctrine or sound medical knowledge, commit atrocities on those, often vulnerable youths and children, whose parents- often neurotic, go to churches where those in charge are more focused on generating hysterical responses than easing people with undermined sense of self.


Thanks Felicity for your response. I have read that memes play a part in shaping a child into what the parent want him or her to be. For instance, tribal religion has been seen as a mechanism for solidifying group identity, valuable for a pack-hunting species whose individuals rely on cooperation to catch large and fast prey. It can be seen why there are biological advantages to children's brains being pliable enough to go along with their parents unfortunately it can also have devastating results.

I have seen double jointed thumbs many times in the hands of people from the spiritualist church, and also people who have (potentially) conflicting spiritual/religious views eg the catholic who was also a wiccan, the C of E who became a Sufi.


Thanks Lynn, I wanted to say more but my baby needs me Smile

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Post  waqar.an on Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:27 am

zeblethai wrote:I've observed that Gandhi has similar flexibility, his is much greater than the exorcists (of course).
Ghandhi was kinda exorcist. he helped freeing Indian subcontinent....Very Happy

Thank you Felicity for sharing your experience. It is fascinating.

Felicity Martin wrote:it would be important to look at each 'exorcism' to justify alleged skills or whether it involves some poor individual who has been judged as 'being possessed' by those with no skills or knowledge of psychological disorders.

There are rare unexplainable phenomenons exorcist can help. He do not have solutions to most of the life problems. I was fascinated by their knowledge of unexplained. That is a whole different world I am unable to understand and comprehend. I tried many times to see ghosts and genes myself. One time my sister in law and nephew saw ghost in the house after mid night and left the house immediately. I stayed back and went many time to the exact place where they saw ghost. Strangely i found nothing. scratch

I told this to the exorcist and he replied that ghost and spirits are seen to the people they wanted to be shown. However one time I went to him with my cousins. One of my cousin was said to been possessed. I requested the exorcist to call the spirit. I was told it was a child gene that is disturbing my cousin. Anyway he did something and blow on my cousin. After some time his physiology changed and he sit alert. The exorcist said that gene was here. I talked to my cousin. He was talking faster and tone was bit different. The gene said that now it is him and not the cousin sitting there. Also he said that he know all of my family and is with us for quit a time. I asked him about my past and he answered fairly accurate. Then I asked that I want to see his hands (I mean gene's hands). Gene said ok he rubbed his hands together, blew on it and then rubbed on his face and then showed it to me. Gene asserted that these are his hands. some of the things i remember was that in hands head line was independent, fate line was broken and overlapped around 10/12 year of age. I told him that he has moved away from his family somehow. Then I said i want to see my cousin's hand (i did not have seen it before). He did the blowing process again and showed again. Lines were a bit different this time. head line gap was less and interestingly the fate line overlap was not there. Later the exorcist told me that this gene is a problem child of their gene family and have been thrown out of their tribe.....Very Happy

Felicity Martin wrote:Also, I would need to see a much clearer picture of the hands and lines as well as the view from the reverse side of the hand to assess whether and what type of hand it is, the nails, the wrinkles on knuckles and whether there are a lot of stars on them as well.
Dear Felicity;
These pics are 4 to 5 year old. This guy is in Pakistan and If i get chance to see him again, I will get clear pics.

Felicity Martin wrote:I have personally seen and heard of serious damage done here is Australia by those, not well qualified both in religious doctrine or sound medical knowledge, commit atrocities on those, often vulnerable youths and children, whose parents- often neurotic, go to churches where those in charge are more focused on generating hysterical responses than easing people with undermined sense of self.
Exorcism is a lucrative business in Pakistan and people are being fooled daily by fake exorcists. However this guy is different. He has his own small business. He do exorcism part time only on holiday on Sunday. He do not charge his fee, yet he ask for charity which is around 350 PKR or around 4 dollars to be given to him and he do it or to do urself. this charity is to ward off evil which can have bad effect on him if not done.


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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  Parender on Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:33 pm

An Exorcist is someone who practices exorcism i.e. freeing someone from evil spirits. One of the minor orders in the unreformed Western Church but now suppressed in the Roman Catholic Church.

He is also called a Shaman. In societies practicing shamanism means one acting as a medium between the visible and spirit worlds; practices sorcery for healing or divination. According to Fingerprint theory/study true Shamans or Exorcists will have the Highest Rank patterns –whorls- on their Left Middle and Left little fingertips (Left Ring Finger is optional) it means they are The Mentor + Healer + Innovator. They are masterful magicians, capable of anything. Yes, this is to be believed.

This is least common combination. I mean a true Hindu Ojha: ‘Ojha’ is a person who acts as intermediary between the natural and super natural worlds, using magic to cure illness, foretell future, control spiritual spirits etc. If you happen to see any Shaman in future, you can know through his fingerprints whether he is true or false. I am finding it difficult to derive anything of that sort from this person's hand pictures as pictures are not clear. The world is full of fake Shamans whether they are in this part of the world or that part of the world.
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His hand pictures neither reveal a strong mentality nor strong intuition, but it reveals that he devoted much of his time in useless activities, had been very sex minded and practiced unnatural vices to satisfy his urges and that he left his parents’ work because he got ‘bore’ doing that. For bringing excitement in his life he might have shifted to these practices. He seems to me a rather slow and lazy person who does not understand his responsibilities. He thinks that he had been betrayed. Nor his hands denote any talent or capability.

He has sensitive pads on his fingertips; he is not a happy person and is liable to suffer from Apparitional Experiences i.e. Hallucinations in the sane that is a type of hallucinatory experience occurring to sane people, which may be defined as one in which a subject seems to perceive some person or thing that is not really there.

Thumb individualizes a person. His thumb is very strong and middle phalanges are longer on the fingers. Though not too much but must have one capability to turn whatever his knowledge or experiences into money.That is good.

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Post  waqar.an on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:31 pm

Parender wrote:
According to Fingerprint theory/study true Shamans or Exorcists will have the Highest Rank patterns –whorls- on their Left Middle and Left little fingertips (Left Ring Finger is optional) it means they are The Mentor + Healer + Innovator. They are masterful magicians, capable of anything. Yes, this is to be believed.

His hand pictures neither reveal a strong mentality nor strong intuition, but it reveals that he devoted much of his time in useless activities, had been very sex minded and practiced unnatural vices to satisfy his urges and that he left his parents’ work because he got ‘bore’ doing that. For bringing excitement in his life he might have shifted to these practices. He seems to me a rather slow and lazy person who does not understand his responsibilities. He thinks that he had been betrayed. Nor his hands denote any talent or capability.

Dear Parender;

Thanks for your insight and i will look for the symbols you mentioned for shamanism. By the way can i ask about source of interpretation you mentioned.

This guy is one of the few people i found happy and contended with whatever they got. Also he learned all this stuff by chance and a necessity where his wife got terminally ill and he couldn't found cure for it except from one source. That cured his wife and later he got more from that source and started doing it for others. (as far as i know).

I think chance do not reward beneficial knowledge to the type of people you mentioned and they do not do the stuff he do.

PS; I noticed that there was some good vibe in his company and one did not want to leave when sitting with him. One of my cousin got addicted to his company. scratch

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Post  zeblethai on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:58 pm

I was a very sensitive child who (as I was told later in life) saw people's aura's and who would communicate with 'others'. This phenomenon is not unknown to young children. As the theory goes young children are closer to the 'creator, spirit, god etc..' and can often see spirits. I have experiences seeing spirits and being frightened half to death as a result. These spirits came to me as dark patches attached to people or sometimes when I was relaxing in bed. I tried everything to shut this out as I did not understand it. Today, I recognize it as a gift and have made attempts to tap into my potential once again. Often in my psychic readings I come across 'unfinished business' from the spirit world. This 'unfinished business' needs to be completed before someone can move on in life. Regrettably, I haven't the skills required to help the person. Knowing someone who performs exorcisms or spirit releasement therapy would be helpful in these cases.

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Post  Lynn on Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:43 pm

Parender wrote:P.S.
His hand pictures neither reveal a strong mentality nor strong intuition, but it reveals that he devoted much of his time in useless activities, had been very sex minded and practiced unnatural vices to satisfy his urges and that he left his parents’ work because he got ‘bore’ doing that. For bringing excitement in his life he might have shifted to these practices. He seems to me a rather slow and lazy person who does not understand his responsibilities. He thinks that he had been betrayed. Nor his hands denote any talent or capability.

He has sensitive pads on his fingertips; he is not a happy person and is liable to suffer from Apparitional Experiences i.e. Hallucinations in the sane that is a type of hallucinatory experience occurring to sane people, which may be defined as one in which a subject seems to perceive some person or thing that is not really there.

Thumb individualizes a person. His thumb is very strong and middle phalanges are longer on the fingers. Though not too much but must have one capability to turn whatever his knowledge or experiences into money.That is good.

Parender Sethi

hi Parender I would be interested to know which features you got this interpretation on this man's hands. I had a different impression of him - that he is closely tied to family, with a good sense of responsibility & duty. He seems fairly peaceful & contented to me, not a worrier, pragmatic approach to problems. I don't see signs of the vices, sex minded etc that you mention & I didn't see him as slow either! Great communication skills, (tho he does not find it easy to talk about his emotions - he keeps them private), leadership skills, determination and confidence - but may have been held back in life and not reached full potential due to family or environmental circumstances. Some big change in his life (around mid 30's?). He has strong lines, an inner wisdom like an 'old soul'. I'm surprised that we are seeing him so differently Parender, because usually I understand and agree with your interpretations. wave


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Post  Lynn on Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:53 pm

waqar.an wrote: PS; I noticed that there was some good vibe in his company and one did not want to leave when sitting with him. One of my cousin got addicted to his company. scratch

Does he have a Loop of Charisma? also known as Rajah Loop - top of palm between index and middle fingers. If it's not just a natural charisma, then I might be a bit worried for your cousin. I felt from his hands some kind of 'controlling' quality, like a hypnotist who can have people under his spell!

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Post  Lynn on Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:01 pm

zeblethai wrote:I was a very sensitive child who (as I was told later in life) saw people's aura's and who would communicate with 'others'. This phenomenon is not unknown to young children. As the theory goes young children are closer to the 'creator, spirit, god etc..' and can often see spirits. I have experiences seeing spirits and being frightened half to death as a result. These spirits came to me as dark patches attached to people or sometimes when I was relaxing in bed. I tried everything to shut this out as I did not understand it. Today, I recognize it as a gift and have made attempts to tap into my potential once again. Often in my psychic readings I come across 'unfinished business' from the spirit world. This 'unfinished business' needs to be completed before someone can move on in life. Regrettably, I haven't the skills required to help the person. Knowing someone who performs exorcisms or spirit releasement therapy would be helpful in these cases.

This is fascinating. I have no experience of 'seeing spirits' etc. But often people tell me about their children seeing spirits. Some people say it is 'imaginary friends' and tell their children 'there is nobody there, it is just your imagination'. I've heard psychics & clairvoyants say it happened to them in childhood, similar to your experience - not understanding it, being scared.... and had to wait till adulthood to learn about how to deal with it & open up again to their abilities.

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Post  Parender on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:29 am

Lynn wrote:
Parender wrote:P.S.
His hand pictures neither reveal a strong mentality nor strong intuition, but it reveals that he devoted much of his time in useless activities, had been very sex minded and practiced unnatural vices to satisfy his urges and that he left his parents’ work because he got ‘bore’ doing that. For bringing excitement in his life he might have shifted to these practices. He seems to me a rather slow and lazy person who does not understand his responsibilities. He thinks that he had been betrayed. Nor his hands denote any talent or capability.

He has sensitive pads on his fingertips; he is not a happy person and is liable to suffer from Apparitional Experiences i.e. Hallucinations in the sane that is a type of hallucinatory experience occurring to sane people, which may be defined as one in which a subject seems to perceive some person or thing that is not really there.

Thumb individualizes a person. His thumb is very strong and middle phalanges are longer on the fingers. Though not too much but must have one capability to turn whatever his knowledge or experiences into money.That is good.

Parender Sethi

hi Parender I would be interested to know which features you got this interpretation on this man's hands. I had a different impression of him - that he is closely tied to family, with a good sense of responsibility & duty. He seems fairly peaceful & contented to me, not a worrier, pragmatic approach to problems. I don't see signs of the vices, sex minded etc that you mention & I didn't see him as slow either! Great communication skills, (tho he does not find it easy to talk about his emotions - he keeps them private), leadership skills, determination and confidence - but may have been held back in life and not reached full potential due to family or environmental circumstances. Some big change in his life (around mid 30's?). He has strong lines, an inner wisdom like an 'old soul'. I'm surprised that we are seeing him so differently Parender, because usually I understand and agree with your interpretations. wave



Hi Lynn,
Thank you for asking. As there are distinctive approaches to analyze a hand and no sign is absolute in itself therefore I try to establish combinations between the sign as in dermatoglyphics we do.

This is also very important to know before reaching to a more appropriate conclusion that in which part of the world the client or the person in question lives and which type of society he moves in. I mean the background of the person.

I am familiar with the mentality of such peer, faqeer i.e. shamans in this part of the world. There are true of course. This one could be, I am not denying that. But, what I wrote about such person is right according to my way of thinking and analyzing.

He has a clear passion line; he is full of energy, possesses a strong thumb, and longer finger of communication, to tell them effortlessly to fulfill his aspirations in this regard even he can insist ruthlessly to get what he wants. As far as his demands (of food, shelter and sex) are met he will not create nuisance for others; but if not then he will create problems for others. The longer Index finger is his hallmark; with a straighter Head Line he is practical, intelligent to a great extent to use his tactics to influence people.

The longer index finger on his hands making the person - with only a few lines on the palms of the hands- an egoist and homosexual. Though, he is a good manager, he has not natural good attraction. People respect him- he has line of reputation- because of his ‘power’ to treat. He gives message that if I can cure I can curse you too. People respect him due to fear not love as I don’t see any healing signs on his palms. The longer little finger giving him eloquence powerful use of language.

The longer pointer is also denoting he loves to point out more, to command more, to order more rather than doing work himself. And very cautious by nature and much of the time goes in sheer planning only. Therefore, I wrote he slow to act. He loves company and happy when ‘yes men’ are around him. He has leadership quality of course.

Vertical lines on thumbs show self isolation and low set little finger shows he wants closeness. No familt pride. As picture is not clear nothing can be mentioned about Raja’s Loop. He is a fighter in true sense and speaks too much capable enough to hide his true self. That is quality of Mercury he would enjoy through his life. His thumb shows he is successful whatever he does. He has his personal enemy/enemies. too.

He could be a man of influence after middle age for the rest of his life. Abundance of everything is seen after middle age because divineness will not cease till his last day on Earth.

That comes in mind when I look at his hands. This all is a ‘bird’s eye view’ only. And many things naturally could be left out unnoticed. By the way I was not reading his palm professionally.Enjoy!
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Post  waqar.an on Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:36 am

Lynn wrote:
waqar.an wrote: PS; I noticed that there was some good vibe in his company and one did not want to leave when sitting with him. One of my cousin got addicted to his company. scratch

Does he have a Loop of Charisma? also known as Rajah Loop - top of palm between index and middle fingers. If it's not just a natural charisma, then I might be a bit worried for your cousin. I felt from his hands some kind of 'controlling' quality, like a hypnotist who can have people under his spell!

hi Lynn;
It is a good info for me. I am not sure but as far as i could remember he was having Rajah loop. I magnify one of the pic and found some structure looking like loop. Please have a look inside the highlight.


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Post  Parender on Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:12 am

waqar.an wrote:
Lynn wrote:
waqar.an wrote: PS; I noticed that there was some good vibe in his company and one did not want to leave when sitting with him. One of my cousin got addicted to his company. scratch

Does he have a Loop of Charisma? also known as Rajah Loop - top of palm between index and middle fingers. If it's not just a natural charisma, then I might be a bit worried for your cousin. I felt from his hands some kind of 'controlling' quality, like a hypnotist who can have people under his spell!

hi Lynn;
It is a good info for me. I am not sure but as far as i could remember he was having Rajah loop. I magnify one of the pic and found some structure looking like loop. Please have a look inside the highlight.



Hi waqar.an,

This is his left hand and this is considered as Nature'a plan.
And yes, the sign resembling to the Rajah Loop. Besides that I notice though very vague that on Left Middle finger there is a very small circle and I think this could be the part of a 'whorl' there.

Anyways, the Rajah Loop is considered extremely rare and very unusual but have very positive impact on the persons who have this mark on their palms. This mark is found on the palm between the Saturn and Jupiter fingers. It indicates that there was royal blood in your family history if you have it there It shows your skill at leading, influencing, and motivating others. In fact, it is known as the loop of Charisma.

Look for this loop in those who gather others around them for a cause — religious leaders, activists, politicians, or those who lead their fields in scholarship, business, or the arts.

The important thing is this that If you have the Rajah loop, make sure that your influence over others is used for the good and not to their damage or loss.

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Post  waqar.an on Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:22 am

zeblethai wrote:Knowing someone who performs exorcisms or spirit releasement therapy would be helpful in these cases.

hi Zeblethai;

I found it difficult to comprehend these people and their body of knowledge. It would be great if you got prints of a true spiritual, shaman or exorcist.

The exorcist i know accept himself that he do not have solutions for all the problems but people keep coming to him despite telling them the same. Also my cousin keeping going to him for almost seven years now for some solution for childlessness. Al though medically every thing is right such as sperm count but still. scratch

When i was with him one time an old lady came for her husband's health problem. Later on he told me that her husband is having hole in heart and told me that he is unable to resolve it and have told the same to that lady but she keep coming (may be she could not afford the medical cost) and now he only pray for her and her husband.

One other incident where he advised my other cousin's husband that there is black magic done on him and gave him water and other things to ward off. I occasionally looked at my cousin's husband's hands and found a black spot or mole like thing on heart line and also head line was broken. I advised to go for heart checkup. he replied that he felt pain near heart few days back and now just came from hospital with reports and all reports are clear. After that I moved to Dubai and around six month after that I heard the news of my cousin's husband death by heart attack.

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Post  waqar.an on Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:41 am

Parender wrote:This is his left hand and this is considered as Nature'a plan.
And yes, the sign resembling to the Rajah Loop. Besides that I notice though very vague that on Left Middle finger there is a very small circle and I think this could be the part of a 'whorl' there.

The important thing is this that If you have the Rajah loop, make sure that your influence over others is used for the good and not to their damage or loss.

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Dear Parender;

Thanks for pointing out circle on middle finger. Yea it is there and when i zoomed in the little finger some similar structure is also there or it look like yin-yang symbol.

As far as I know and he told himself that they got this knowledge only after a pledge to use it for good. The moment they try to use their powers for own gain or other bad things, these powers are seized automatically.

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  Lynn on Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:30 am

Thanks for your reply Parender & explaining. I understand what you are saying, (tho I don't see a passion line).
waqar, Parender makes good comments about the Rajah loop, but I can't see if there is one from the zoomed picture.

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  waqar.an on Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:12 am

Lynn wrote:I can't see if there is one from the zoomed picture.
hi Lynn;
I have talked to my cousin over the phone and by the coming Sunday I can get it confirmed about the Rajah loop and whorls and hopefully get clear hand pictures also.

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  Lynn on Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:29 am

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  waqar.an on Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:51 am

Meantime I also talk to the exorcist himself as my cousin said to do so. May be the pictures and confirmations would be possible by next Sunday and not this Sunday. Anyway i will do my best.

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  jeanette on Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:16 pm

Hi Parender,
I wasn't going to bother asking you this but it has bothered me and what I want to know is what are you saying the Roman Catholic Church suppressed.

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  Patti on Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:21 pm

waqar.an wrote:Here is an exorcist's hands pics. You may pull out some good information. I will also try my best to decode this print for other's good. Be careful though....and do not catch attentions of unwanted spirits...Very Happy




Hi Waqar!
Interesting topic! I've enjoyed the experiences shared!!

Someone facing pure 'evil' would need to have the strength and daring within themselves to do so.

The blunt fingertips show a skeptical mind. Energy flows out, but not easily in.

The heart lines do not curve upwards, but instead move across the hand - I'd read this, in this person, as keeping an emotional distance from people. There is a faintly seen branch rising in the right hand toward the Jupiter mount, but it appears to cut through the heart line and not a part of it. This rising crease also lacks color or energy.

He holds his hands confidently. His fingers closed - another sign of closed to outside energy coming in.

The middle section of his fingers are thick. He shares little of himself or his life with others. He's a very private person. His life line shows he's an extrovert, social and talkative, but he reveals very little about himself that he does not wish to share. People with these thick mid sections (versus what is called 'waisted') tend to draw people/strangers to them that pour out their problems and life stories, unasked.

He has a physical hand, strong and strong willed.

His energy isn't directly about healing and comforting. He's a warrior. He fights what he sees as evil. His satisfaction comes from obtaining that goal. Winning the fight against what he sees as a 'demon'.

There are people who may believe they have been possessed by an evil spirit. Which is the best way to 'heal' them of this? Do we try to convince them with logical explanations that there is no such thing as being possessed or hexed. Perhaps someone who specializes in the ritual of expelling unwanted energy, or entities, is the perfect placebo. The mind is capable of believing oneself into wellness without chemicals.

I see the 'passion' line that Parender mentions in the right hand. I think this goes beyond just sexual implications. It's the desire to experience intense sensations. One can only imagine what sensations one experiences in an exchange of energy with a demon. Twisted Evil One person's pleasure, may be another person's pain. (think tickle)

He also has a stronger diagonal crease in the right left hand that is similar to the passion line but it originates under the little finger. Interestingly I have noticed seeing this particular crease a number of times in the past few days. I think it has the same energy relating to intense sensations, but adding little finger energy.

I didn't realize how long this post was getting.... to be cont'd. wave


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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  waqar.an on Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:08 pm

Patti wrote:Hi Waqar!
Interesting topic! I've enjoyed the experiences shared!!

Someone facing pure 'evil' would need to have the strength and daring within themselves to do so.

The blunt fingertips show a skeptical mind. Energy flows out, but not easily in.

The heart lines do not curve upwards, but instead move across the hand - I'd read this, in this person, as keeping an emotional distance from people. There is a faintly seen branch rising in the right hand toward the Jupiter mount, but it appears to cut through the heart line and not a part of it. This rising crease also lacks color or energy.
hi Patti;
Thanks for liking. He has a garment shop.Very few people from his business circle know about his these practices. He told me his story in bits and pieces. He was not the type of guy he is right now and was jolly and was enjoying life casually. As Lynn mentioned there was big change in 30's, he was working in Saudi Arabia for sometime and he had to come back due to some family issues. Later he struck with his wife's problem and then after much desperation found this knowledge by chance he is practicing right now. He is not much educated. I think till matriculations is his studies.
Heart line which bend downward under the index finger i usually interpret as a person put high expectations on others and friends. He did asked me some favor two years back but I was losing job that time due to recession and could not help him fearing about future. (by the way he told me that time that my company would not fire me. My company did not fired me. instead they offered me job with same salary in another company of the same group). scratch
Yesterday when I talked to him after long time, he was happy to talk to me and there was no sign of grudge. BTW he has slight lisp when he speak.

Patti wrote:
He has a physical hand, strong and strong willed.

His energy isn't directly about healing and comforting. He's a warrior. He fights what he sees as evil. His satisfaction comes from obtaining that goal. Winning the fight against what he sees as a 'demon'.

He do not remember how many of evil spirits he have burned. He said that genes and other spirits are living in a parallel world among us and have their own check and balance. They do not interfere with humans. However as humans have criminals and bad people so as they have. First step is to call and persuade the gene who possess or disturb a human to leave. If an agreement is not reached then he can burn them. He do not use any force such as beating or other crazy things shown on media the fake exorcists doing to the possessed person. All the fighting he do with evil can't be seen by us. He got in severe health and financial problems sometime due to this (or if people forget to do charity after exorcism).
Patti wrote:There are people who may believe they have been possessed by an evil spirit. Which is the best way to 'heal' them of this? Do we try to convince them with logical explanations that there is no such thing as being possessed or hexed. Perhaps someone who specializes in the ritual of expelling unwanted energy, or entities, is the perfect placebo. The mind is capable of believing oneself into wellness without chemicals.
This remind me of a joke where in a mental institution a so called crazy climbed to a light pole and refused to come down. All the doctors and staff did their best but couldn't persuade him. Then another crazy person came and threatened him to come down or he would cut the pole in half by scissor. The first crazy immediately climbed down. The doctor asked why he did not listened to him and why believed the other crazy. The first crazy replied because the other crazy is a real crazy and might cut the pole in half....Very Happy
We usually try to deny the other's model of world or matrix. Solution is not in destroying the matrix but to suggest the way inside it.

Patti wrote:I see the 'passion' line that Parender mentions in the right hand. I think this goes beyond just sexual implications. It's the desire to experience intense sensations. One can only imagine what sensations one experiences in an exchange of energy with a demon. Twisted Evil One person's pleasure, may be another person's pain. (think tickle)

He also has a stronger diagonal crease in the right left hand that is similar to the passion line but it originates under the little finger. Interestingly I have noticed seeing this particular crease a number of times in the past few days. I think it has the same energy relating to intense sensations, but adding little finger energy.

I didn't realize how long this post was getting.... to be cont'd. wave
I can't say anything about his private life. As far as i know he is happily married with 3 or 4 children.

The knowledge he practice needs lot of endurance. It is a lot and lot of reciting in the night and other hard to practice stuff. I recently studied modeling with NLP. If I get chance to be with him again I will do my best to extract as Richard Bandler extracts good stuff from yogis. (if it would be possible for me).

PS: He can identify health problems from spiritual problems and do not try to cure health problems and advise person having it to visit hospital. Also he has his own divination methods and will tell you about it later.

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Re: An exorcist's hands

Post  Patti on Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:25 pm

Thanks! for sharing more!

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