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Post  Ron on Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:32 am

Lynn wrote:Have you forgotten about the 5th element?!

Uh, no..

Lynn wrote:Weren't you taught that chirology is "holistic" hand reading?

Yes, Chirology is Holistic, holistic in a sense of various beings of an individual, emotional, mental, physical, and metaphysical (not spiritual!)

Lynn wrote:Holistic comes from the same root as the words 'whole' 'hale' and 'holy'.

No it does not. The Greeks were the founder of the word Holistic. Holistic has always meant a whole identity or the whole of a function, e.g. the holistic workings of a community. No where did holistic ever become associated with anything spiritual till 30years ago these new age types started it use it, and tried to claim it. Now every time I mention holistic everyone thinks it's some new age hula hula nonsense.

Lynn wrote:Ron, were you taught about spirituality within the 4 elements with regard to what religions / spiritual beliefs might suit each element?

No?! What spirituality with in the 4 elements? And how can you associated a religion or a spiritual belief with the element? With fire suiting islam and earth suiting buddism?

I was never taught any of the features representing by the Ether element, I was taught that Ether was a combination of all 4 elements. Now I have only completed half of the syllabus in South Africa, and I can tell you now the other half being taught in South Africa have nothing to to with religion or spiritual beliefs.
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Post  Lynn on Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:19 pm

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Lynn wrote:Holistic comes from the same root as the words 'whole' 'hale' and 'holy'.

No it does not. The Greeks were the founder of the word Holistic. Holistic has always meant a whole identity or the whole of a function, e.g. the holistic workings of a community. No where did holistic ever become associated with anything spiritual till 30years ago these new age types started it use it, and tried to claim it. Now every time I mention holistic everyone thinks it's some new age hula hula nonsense.

re "The Greeks were the founder of the word Holistic" - yes, exactly, "holos". check out the etymology of the words 'whole' 'hale' and 'holy', I think you find they come from the same root.

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Lynn wrote:Ron, were you taught about spirituality within the 4 elements with regard to what religions / spiritual beliefs might suit each element?

No?! What spirituality with in the 4 elements? And how can you associated a religion or a spiritual belief with the element? With fire suiting islam and earth suiting buddism?

I was never taught any of the features representing by the Ether element, I was taught that Ether was a combination of all 4 elements. Now I have only completed half of the syllabus in South Africa, and I can tell you now the other half being taught in South Africa have nothing to to with religion or spiritual beliefs.

Yes, each element will be more drawn to certain types of religious / spiritual beliefs and practises. As you know with the holistic nature of 5 element hand analysis, we can relate the elements to all aspects of life, spirituality (which is not the same as religion, but religion is a form of spirituality) also comes into it.
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Post  Ron on Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:33 am

Holism (from ὅλος holos, a Greek word meaning all, whole, entire, total) is the idea that all the properties of a given system (physical, biological, chemical, social, economic, mental, linguistic, etc.) cannot be determined or explained by its component parts alone. Instead, the system as a whole determines in an important way how the parts behave.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary.
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Post  Lynn on Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:35 am

HI Charles, thanks for starting new topic about "Holistic Palmistry". I will continue there...
https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/new-member-introductions-f36/holistic-palmistry-t149.htm#838

altho I just noticed the topic is still in new member introductions, so maybe we need to move it to another area.

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Post  cshahar on Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:23 am

Sure Lynn. I would be happy to continue. Where should we move it to?

By the way, I have been appreciating your insights a lot!

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Post  Lynn on Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:42 am

cshahar wrote:Sure Lynn. I would be happy to continue. Where should we move it to?

By the way, I have been appreciating your insights a lot!

-Charles

Thanks Charles, I have replied at your new thread. If it needs to be moved we can think about that tomorrow. (I use the term "we" What a Face really I mean Martijn! Banana waving ....In my role as asst mod I am still a bit unsure about how /where/when to move discussions!)
btw - thanks for the compliment ;-)
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Post  Ron on Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:58 am

Well I'm not happy to continue, I'm going to "drop it like it's hot"..
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Post  Lynn on Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:24 pm

I have moved the "Holistic Palmistry" discussion out of 'new member introductions' to "modern palmistry" section.
https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/iii-modern-palmistry-general-topics-questions-f4/holistic-palmistry-t149.htm
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