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Post  Martijn (admin) Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:40 pm

Patti wrote:I found a link to the text. The page is formatted poorly, but if you scroll almost to the bottom you'll find the chapter I mentioned above at the number "161"

http://archive.org/stream/americananatomic20wist/americananatomic20wist_djvu.txt

Page 66 includes an interesting passage in the perspective of the word 'primitiveness' (this passage shows how the word does relate to specialization/evolution):

"Indeed, man is to be ranked among the highly specialized primates, along with Tarsius, Ateles and Hylobates each having its own kind of specialization, in the instance of Hylobates, at least, representing departures from primitiveness which are carried further than in man and in directions which are in part peculiar to the genus."

(NOTICE: This passage directly relates to the picture seen in page 174 of Cummins & Midlo's work!!!)


PS. I recognize how this comment in the perspective of the dermatoglyphics also is relevant for the other hand characteristics of these primate species, because in my primate hand study I found that the Tarsius (= the highest evolved prosimian) and Hylobates (= gibbons) happen to be two of the three primates species that have a HIGHER 2D:4D digit ratio than us humans!

The third primates species is the capuchin monkey (cebus)... which is known for it's relatively high intelligence (capuchins are the only primates that have a higher brain to body index than us humans).


PPS. The hand shows that the 'ateles' (= spider monkey) does not really belown to the higher evolved primates... because they have no thumb and their dermatoglyphic pattern index for the hand is actually higher than all non-human apes - so this monkey is probably only listed for their feet... and the picture on page 174 shows for the human species (homo) tat the feet are actually far less relevant than the hands: because all human apes species have a lower pattern index on their feet than us humans! Very Happy
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Post  Patti Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:48 pm

Yes, and those that are more specialized have the more primitive patterns.

In eugenics in the late 19th to early 20th century this became an issue as Jews have more whorls and some tried to use the idea of primitive to relate to closer to the apes than other humans. But the fact was that the more specialized primates had the most primitive patterns. Meaning the arches were on the least specialized.
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Post  Martijn (admin) Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:35 pm

Patti wrote:Yes, and those that are more specialized have the more primitive patterns.

In eugenics in the late 19th to early 20th century this became an issue as Jews have more whorls and some tried to use the idea of primitive to relate to closer to the apes than other humans. But the fact was that the more specialized primates had the most primitive patterns. Meaning the arches were on the least specialized.

No Patti... the more primitive primate species display the more primitive patterns (such as: high pattern intensity, more whorls + low 2D:4D ratios).

And the more specialized primate species - such has the Tarsius, Ateles and Hylobates - exhibit more of the less primitive patterns (such as: low pattern intensity, less whorls + high 2D:4D digit ratios).

(The word 'specialized' should only be understood in the perspective of a comparison with species in the same sub-family; however, likewise patterns are seen between sub-families as well: the great apes have a lower pattern index, less whorls and a higher digit ratio than the old world monkeys; and the same result is found in a comparison between new world monkeys and prosimians. NOTICE: The evolutionary order is: prosimians - tarsius - new world monkeys - old world monkeys - gibbons - greate apes - humans)


Humans belong to the latter (specialized) category; that is what the Cummins & Midlo quote literally points out:

"Indeed, man is to be ranked among the highly specialized primates, along with Tarsius, Ateles and Hylobates each having its own kind of specialization..."


PS. Regarding the dermatoglyphics, the tarsius has the lowest pattern intensity of all primates (in my recent article I have paid some extra attention to this species... though they initially were classified as 'prosimians' they later were recognized by DNA as belonging to the higher simians; and the hand confirms this because the tarsius does not have the prosimian digit formula - where the 4th digit is typically longer than the 3rd digit, see: http://www.handresearch.com/news/primatology-palm-reading-primate-hands-family-tree.htm#tarsier )


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