Is Sun line overrated?

kreator8509 wrote:Doea anyone here think that:

1: the frequency of people possessing the sun line is far more than what is described by palmistry books? Meaning most books say that most people tdont have it or have only a small line on the sun mount. It seems more frequent than stated by these books when you look at images of not so famous celebs or even the general public. In fact a lot of people on this forum could be seen as having this line

2. The meaning of the sun line is not that accurate as described by palmistry books... wealth, fame, social recognition, happiness. If many people have it, shouldn't they all hae some of these qualities?

kreator8509 wrote:here's one example:

Palmistry a universal guide, Nathaniel altman Pg 215 and
The Book of Palmistry by Nathaniel ALtman pg 73

https://books.google.com/books?id=e3f-RVg7JQQC&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=line+of+apollo+palmistry+rare&source=bl&ots=jsz2vYpM1o&sig=Vc0o_L-u0T0mNbDjNPUvPn42tWs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCMQ6AEwATgKahUKEwi6_bHCjavHAhXFLB4KHTsSAao#v=onepage&q=line%20of%20apollo%20palmistry%20rare&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=N_0-fedGH04C&pg=PA216&lpg=PA216&dq=line+of+apollo+palmistry+rare&source=bl&ots=jM9OBPhAkj&sig=mVruV7Hh0uOBVd2CBlV1Nn1SQ_Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CD8Q6AEwCWoVChMI79Gf_IqrxwIVQ6QeCh0N7wjv#v=onepage&q=line%20of%20apollo%20palmistry%20rare&f=false

Some articles found online have gone to the extent of saying that without sun line people live an ordinary life, a life without sunshine, without name and fame or their effeorts will not be recognized.

http://chinesehoroscop-e.com/palmistry/sun-line.php

http://www.palmfate.com/2010/03/line-of-sun-or-apollo-on-palm.html
http://chestofbooks.com/new-age/palmistry/All/Chapter-VI-The-Line-Of-The-Sun.html#.VdCLarJViko
"Without this line, life has no happiness, no sunshine, as it were, and even the greatest talents lie in darkness and do not produce their fruit."

Good work kreator8509, thanks for your efforts to present passages from the palmistry literature.



Let me give you an example from my own research materials:

In my handprints sample of Dutch university students I see a large amount of hands with multiple long sun lines, however in far most of these cases the lines are very weak (usually weaker than other minor lines), and often there are interruptions in some of those lines.

Maybe part of your problem is that in the literature in the field of palmistry is generally characterized by authors who present usually poor quality descriptions (+ often poor quality visual illustrations). In a way one could say that the literature often induces a fantasy without clear borders about what the meaning of certain characteristics could be... and at the end the reader will go his or her own way - by using free interpretation - in adopting the guideline.

So, yes I think the literature can be misleading here; I think you are absolutely right that the sun line is far less rare than what is often suggested... because the line itself is not rare at all (maybe even a majority of people might have a few short, weak sun lines). However, I also do would like to add that a single, long strong sun line is only rarely seen in a hand (maybe even less than 1% of people have the classic manifestation of the line) - but I think the significance of this specific manifestation has never been proven nor illustrated... nor do authors even bother to look for evidence - unfortunately it appears that authors simply preach what they 'believe'.


Meanwhile, over the years I have never see any sound research where the sun line became validated with a clear well-defined concept or topic.

I hope this input will become helpful to anyone who wants to know.

kreator8509 wrote:Martijn,

Regarding the meaning of the line, have you found any proof or from the hands you have seen that remotely reflects the qualities described - happiness, fame, money recognition, magnetic personality etc.

PK

The only reason I ask is to see if there is any meat to what the books say. I have only found some anecdotal evidence looking at pictures online to reflect some of its qualities. I mean I have seen both, people with money, fame or charisma that do not have a sun line and also people without these having a sun line.

Some of the pictures that validate the theory are:
I recently found a picture of Axl Rose who seemed to have a really strong sun line. I started new thread in the musicians sections.

Also the US presidents article you posted showed many of them having strong sun lines.

Sarah Berhhardr's prints in palmistry books.

kreator8509 wrote:Learner,

I dont have any specific examples of palms with/without sun line and with without fame.. My comment was a general comment based on looking at pictures online of celebs or regular people.. The problem is that with celebrities, finding a clear picture with the sun line (which is a minor line and not generally visible) is not easily possible.. you can only see a line that looks like a sun line from a certain angle in a certain picture. The same line will not be visible in other pictures..

on the other hand...if you find pictures of random people's palms online.. you will see the sun line in several of them... however you cant say how rich, famous, or satisfied they are or which sun line characteristics they possess..hence it always sort of remains subjective.

Can anyone here tell me how to assess the strength of the sun line.. it seems a bit subjective.. the sun line most of the times looks faint in most palms.. and much fainter than the heart, head and the life line... Even in the US president's post where is says 6/10 US president's had a strong sun line... looking a the pictures it still seems fainter. My question is how is a strong line defined, since it seems subjective.

learner wrote:

kreator8509 wrote:Learner,

I dont have any specific examples of palms with/without sun line and with without fame.. My comment was a general comment based on looking at pictures online of celebs or regular people.. The problem is that with celebrities, finding a clear picture with the sun line (which is a minor line and not generally visible) is not easily possible.. you can only see a line that looks like a sun line from a certain angle in a certain picture. The same line will not be visible in other pictures..

on the other hand...if you find pictures of random people's palms online.. you will see the sun line in several of them... however you cant say how rich, famous, or satisfied they are or which sun line characteristics they possess..hence it always sort of remains subjective.

Can anyone here tell me how to assess the strength of the sun line.. it seems a bit subjective.. the sun line most of the times looks faint in most palms.. and much fainter than the heart, head and the life line... Even in the US president's post where is says 6/10 US president's had a strong sun line... looking a the pictures it still seems fainter. My question is how is a strong line defined, since it seems subjective.

Thanks for feedback.  Look for pictures of Mick Jagger. He has very good long sun line. you can compare with that. I don't think there is any ordinary person with such long, strong line. I agree online celebs pictures are very rarely clear. Most of the time only 3 main lines are visible.  In different angles you can see different lines.

Pravin Kumar had posted that he has seen  celeb hands in a wedding. And many did not have sun line. But he says they also had lot of personal problems. So I think that line is related to satisfaction and happiness also.

rajashri wrote:

Learner and kreator,

Both of you have answered your own questions. Kreator has concluded that Sun line is subjective and learner has rounded up his own conclusion and i  feel has understood the gist of it.


The presence of this line is indeed SUBJECTIVE.
What Kreator really wants to know is while doing a reading, how to interpret the Sun line strength wise in that particular person's hand. You cannot make the final interpretation just assessing the Sun line, obviously it will depend on the rest of the lines and Hand overall. This point of Multiple perspective reading has been stressed upon by Martijn for years.

About celebrities, Learner's conclusion with Pravin kumar's observation is perfect.
To add on, an Apollo Star is an important mark which strengthens the SUN Line  being a 6 pointed or 8 pointed one.
A six pointed  star consists of 2 horizontal spokes from Girdle of Venus, an oblique line from the Purva punya rekha and a vertical Sun Line . this formation itself tells the story and meaning that a the person owning it will achieve recognition through creativity, his hardwork, past good deeds, right desire and will and the SUN line representing money and satisfaction. I have seen this line.

Finally, even Dhundhun's contribution of the links tells us that even a person with negative intentions can have this well marked. So, where is  the problem?