Dominique Strauss-Kahn, IMF director: into the hands of a womanizer!

Does the small thumb, with a large distal phalange and a short second phalange, along with the short index finger, low 2D:4D ratio, pinky leaning away from Apollo, large Venus mount and short fingers along with (as Martijn pointed out) short nails and large moon mount combinations lead to his behavior? I also noticed that the distal phalange of the index finger bends to Apollo?

tap

Thanks

what I meant to say was middle finger each time I said index finger (for both short and leaning to ring finger). I remember somewhere I saw a diagram showing where each finger should line up to be considered average (will try to find that and refer back to it). It just looks a little short to me . Also with the picture you enlarged and reposted I am not 100% sure about the 2D:4D ratio any more, but it still looks a little low. If so would that apply? Great pictures, but I have some difficulty with all the different angles of the fingers reflecting their length. I guess pictures can be a little deceiving with that. I will give all of them a closer look.

tap

I too think the thumbs speak volumns about a forceful and impulsive nature.

Here it appears he has the short and wide thumb nail more commonly seen on a clubbed thumb.

Dear friends,

I would take the most points about his sex appetite on the strong, fully packed thumb Mount of Venus and it's tension. And don't to forget the Positive Mount of Mars upon. I can't really examnine details of the lines on Venus but would await some strong crossing the life line. The some deep tribe lines are there. Then: The heart line is passinated red.
I agree the most you wrote about the fingers and thumb. - The Saturn dip turning to Apollon signalize a need for indipendance and on the other hand some dependance of others or not too less the feedback of others.

Thanks Martijn for the nice pictures.

Regards
Manfred

ps.: The little reddish (?) Moon may signalize a leaning for diabetes - some weekness of a strong consolidated self.

Does not sound like a big issue. But terribly wondering, why it is been projected through thick lens and was created as a big issue. It is just like what happen to clinton in the court of law. ie., intentionally spoiling one's fame and reputation. Being a rich, he can gratify his sexual desires, like daily with different young girls. It is easily possible to him including this victim black maid. but, i guess, it is intentionally made web to spoil his reputation.

I would expect island in the sun line in such cases of loss of fame through scandals.

Thanks Martjin and respondents for posting this photo,

For me the stand out is the Mount of Venus which I think would be quite hard, and the Jupiter finger with the tendency to curve in which can indicate an aquisitive nature and perhaps a morbid self absorption. Surprisingly the Index finger has a short second phalanges which I find indicates administrative skills, in applied handling of staff is compromised. A lot of successful businessmen have this type of hand but not with such an exaggerated mount. Often these people are the victims of their own drives, I had one come to me, I had carefully ignored the huge Mount of Venus, which stood out like the proverbial 'dog's balls', excuse Aussie slang, and at the end of the reading, I use Tarot as well, he rather embarrassed, asked about this problem he had with keeping all these women he had in each state happy... He did not have the crooked index finger. Others with this hand type I have found, are most likely the ones who have a very crude approach to women and assume they are after one thing, and no matter how you tell them their comments are offensive they just don't understand you actually mean it.

Maybe in Strauss Kahn's case his drive for success he has, in the old Jungian context, not developed his animus beyond teenage years and then projects this shadow onto young women.

Felicity

Felicity

Posting this for learning purpose….expand on how these hand traits affect the person and how their combination may enhance each other.

Strong developed hypothenar/mount of moon -
Short nails -
Distal phalange of thumb - impulse-control problem/forceful, impulsive nature
Large mount of Venus -
Positive mount of mars –
Suspected lines crossing mount of Venus-
Suspected deep tribe lines-
Heart line red- passionate
Saturn tip leaning to Apollo- Signalize a need for independence and on the other hand some dependence of others or not too less the feedback of others.
Suspected island on sun line-loss of fame through scandals
Jupiter finger curving in – acquisitive nature and perhaps a morbid self absorption
Index finger with short second phalange (administrative skills) –handling of staff compromised
Pinky leaning away from Apollo – temporary gesture (?)- unconventional, independent
2D:4D ratio low (.93) – physically aggressive and assertive behavior, less able to express empathy
Short fingers (73%)- impatient, think and act quickly

Used this picture for measurements with finger length and 2D:4D ratio:
https://servimg.com/view/15450210/720

Adding
Full/thick INDEX finger- focuses on ego

Might be interesting to add hand traits (if seen?) that might reduce/balance these traits too.

Hi tap,

it is hard to isolate each quality as they are modified by their associated relationship with other factorss. The large mount of Venus, this has many variations, in this case the Mount of Venus gives the impression of being excessively large and also the impression it would be hard to touch. Often people have a large mount but it is palpable, others, it is like a rock, and I don't feel this can be attributed to muscular development, In association then with very red heart lines, for me this can indicate an agressive sexual drive, often in men also this has been channelled into a strong drive for monetary success. Maybe as Freud postualted, it starts in childhood as a result of sublimation to the father and a resentment of the mother through seeing her as weak- who knows unless one has a direct association with the subject. So then it could be the genetic predisposition along with the environmental factor.
Those with a large Mount of Venus which is palpable are sensual with a strong libido but generally capable of sensitivity to the partner
So this in no way is supposed to be a judgement of the situation being discussed but an opportunity to perhaps look at why someone, who is outstandingly successful, may have a biography where that drive for success can result from factors, which like a two-edged sword, can lead to tragic events as well.

Felicity

Thank you Felicity for expanding on the Venus mount and some of the variations to consider for it in analyzing their indications. I know quite a few people on this site have been studying palmistry for a long time so when the hands are being discussed there is can be an element of acquired knowledge not being stated. I can understand this, especially since there is such a combined aspect in palm reading. I feel since this is a public forum and there are many levels of knowledge for the people who visit this site, it might be nice that sometimes when an aspect is given for the analysis a more detailed description which supports it would be given for the newbies. I know that can be like saying 2+2=4 for a lot of you, but for the newbies it helps them understand that there is more to it than just one aspect. At the beginning of understanding palmistry, some people may tend to disregard the validity of it when they read that a (using above for example ) a large mount of Venus means strong libido but generally capable of sensitivity to the partner and then later might see it referred to an aggressive sexual drive without much sensitivity. So by adding a description of consistency, color etc. to the reading of the mount and its indication it might make more sense for them and help them to understand how palmistry really works. Just a thought.

tap

Hy,

remacable: The dips leaning "over board", specially the left Mercury dip. I think a sign of an easily influenced instinct for what's going on around, depending on Mecury, on the field of communikation.

Bodily: Sexual communication,
Social: Monetary floating,
Mental: Intellectual and ideas, intuitions.

The left Mercury accentuate the intime sphaere.


Regards
Manfred

A little something he'd like to clean off his hands? Or ready to fight back.

Hello tap, felicity and others


I say here that venus mount is well developed in all humans when compare to their all other mount. sometimes we could find over developed mount of venus in fatty or plumpy individuals. Hence, it means that fat or plumpy girls has more sexual desire and libido. does it sound true? I think that It is insensible to compare his misbehaviour act with over-developed venus mount alone. In other reverse examples i too have found small ditch on venus mount as well.

H Stalin-

Thanks for you feedback and I think I must not have expressed myself very well....

The defining thing about the Mount of Venus is, in this case, it is larger than the normal Mount one generally encounters and two, hypothetically only, is the quality of the tone, some are rock hard, literally, some well developed but you can press them and they are palpable. that is it is easy to press the mount in with your finger, a big difference... the second is an excellent quality being warm, energetic etc. Others may have a soft and pudgy feel, which means they are probably more likely to enjoy a more relaxed, less strenuous lifestyle.

There are many more characteristics that also I think reflect cultural backgrounds, generally I have noticed the Middle east and Asian region have well developed mounts, and many of us with the English origin tend to have a lot less developed Mounts of Venus, many quite flat, which may be a reason we have been through phases like the Victorian era of chastity, the 'stiff upper lip. less capacity to express emotions because we have a higher proportion of us who maybe have less libido. I have also noticed that the Middle east, India etc have a much high predominance of conic palm shape- not the fingers, but the genuine conic palm, maybe that accounts for the passion felt for politics etc, love of sports, energy for business.

With the dip I usually find the person is more a head- cerebral partner who wants a relationship that is more of a friendship rather than physical. Often hard on their partner with a well developed mount who wants to have a full-filling sexual relationship

Hope this is of some help even though they are more personal observations rather than necessarily out of books. However many books do have a similar interpretation.

Felicity

Hello felicity,

Thanks for the elaboration

Patti wrote:A little something he'd like to clean off his hands? Or ready to fight back.

Hi Patti,

In Jewish tradition the palm is the seat of the soul, and rubbing the hands is much like trying to re-energise the soul when feeling threatened- often this is misinterpreted by those who do not understand this traditional belief- many think it is a money making characteristic and maybe it is- but these stages, as in a contemporary context described by Abraham Maslow, are part of evolving towards the 7th phase in your personal tree of life.
Where you realise that while you have mastered your emotions, secured you power and wealth, it doesn't answer the inner question in Tarot this phase is the Chariot, this is the point at which one comes to Kabbalah.
So maybe the Tower in Tarot, which is the return of this phase if ignored, is a terrible reminder to him to return to his personal spiritual path,
There are several exercises one does with the hands, in the same way as the Indian Mudras. The stretching of the fingers as an exercise is believed to form a spiritual connection with the soul, clapping the hands is also to help focus etc.
In the book of Jethro from the ancient teachings there is extensive emphasis placed on interpreting the hands and the lines on the brow etc, color of eyes, though much is incomprehensible unless you have been trained in the concept of Adam Ha Rishon, the spiritual worlds, which Kabbalists relate to parts of the human body to the Kabbalistic Tree of Life.

I note he had a father who was a member of a Masonic Order and a mixed Catholic and Jewish parentage- quite something to deal with.

I note with some sadness he is on suicide watch, and also pause to remember everyone has their inner biography, which why not in any way condoning his actions, allows us to see them in the fallible human context. The most important thing that we are taught is our connection to everyone, and that each reflects part of ourselves.

Hope this gives some insight, though I may be way off line.

Felicity

Felicity Martin wrote:

Patti wrote:A little something he'd like to clean off his hands? Or ready to fight back.

Hi Patti,

In Jewish tradition the palm is the seat of the soul, and rubbing the hands is much like trying to re-energise the soul when feeling threatened- often this is misinterpreted by those who do not understand this traditional belief- many think it is a money making characteristic and maybe it is- but these stages, as in a contemporary context described by Abraham Maslow, are part of evolving towards the 7th phase in your personal tree of life.
Where you realise that while you have mastered your emotions, secured you power and wealth, it doesn't answer the inner question in Tarot this phase is the Chariot, this is the point at which one comes to Kabbalah.
So maybe the Tower in Tarot, which is the return of this phase if ignored, is a terrible reminder to him to return to his personal spiritual path,
There are several exercises one does with the hands, in the same way as the Indian Mudras. The stretching of the fingers as an exercise is believed to form a spiritual connection with the soul, clapping the hands is also to help focus etc.
In the book of Jethro from the ancient teachings there is extensive emphasis placed on interpreting the hands and the lines on the brow etc, color of eyes, though much is incomprehensible unless you have been trained in the concept of Adam Ha Rishon, the spiritual worlds, which Kabbalists relate to parts of the human body to the Kabbalistic Tree of Life.

I note he had a father who was a member of a Masonic Order and a mixed Catholic and Jewish parentage- quite something to deal with.

I note with some sadness he is on suicide watch, and also pause to remember everyone has their inner biography, which why not in any way condoning his actions, allows us to see them in the fallible human context. The most important thing that we are taught is our connection to everyone, and that each reflects part of ourselves.

Hope this gives some insight, though I may be way off line.

Felicity

A wealth of information Felicity! Thank you! I've been pondering your post since I read it earlier this morning.

First thinking of relatives on my birth mother's side of the family and their body language and my own tendency to massage my palms with my opposite thumbs and end with pressing the palms strongly together in a hand clasp when stressed.

Then you mention the Chariot! Studying triradii led me to taking a more serious look at The Chariot. Waite says "he is conquest on all planes - in the mind, in science, in progress, in certain trials of initiation." and "He is above all things triumph in the mind." Which I would interpret to include achieving a state of being able to be beyond or detached from sensual (any of the senses) awareness as well as quieting the mind. The Charioteer's hands are positioned in a mudra.

So Mr. Strauss-Kahn has missed an opportunity to move to a higher plane of life due to his strong physical urges and instead has had the rug pulled out from under him in the energy of the Tower. I relate the Tower to undirected change. Calling out for change but with no plan.

A commentator on a news talk show this past week wondered out loud why the public and the press is always so shocked and surprised when people in powerful positions have equally powerful sexual appetites. Mentioning a long list of people including, of course, Clinton, Tiger and all the way back to John F. Kennedy. He suggested we should focus on this type of person's powerful capabilities and not be so concerned about their more private needs. Of course, forcing oneself on someone should not be ignored.

What amazes me is that this man didn't just make a discrete request to the doorman or other employees and found a willing participant. The chasing down and attacking this woman against her will indicates to me something more than just a need to satisfy his sexual needs. This is about control and domination, too.

Manfred wrote:

remacable: The dips leaning "over board", specially the left Mercury dip. I think a sign of an easily influenced instinct for what's going on around, dending on Mecury, on the field of communikation.

Hi Manfred,
I must share with you that I thought when I first read this and again reading what you wrote now, I didn't realize you meant finger tips!
Because of that I've been studying which direction the 'dips' or depressions between the mounts on the palms under the fingers lean! I thought you were onto something I hadn't heard of before!!
I thought I'd share the

Thank you, Patty. I'm still learning on the field of language, too.
Manfred

Manfred wrote:Thank you, Patty. I'm still learning on the field of language, too.
Manfred

I hope you know I wasn't laughing at you, I was laughing at me.

No Problem, Patty, I thought right....just on the jump for a one week sailing turn.
Regards
Manfred

Parender mentioned a marking referred to as an enemy line on Gadaffi. Does Dominique have this feature, as it seems he was falsely accused?

Hi Patty,

I can't really see the fine lines on my screen, the picture isn't good enough.

Regards
Mafred