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Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
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Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
It's amazing that the fingerprints, also formed at the same time, identifying Life Purpose from DNA at a soul level, are formed before the soul enters. This confirms for me the importance of the fingerprints in a person's life.
Dr. Michael Newton (Ph.D) has regressed more than 10,000 patients through hypnotherapy. This information is reported from these people. Most of his patients would go to their lives between lives when they were regressed. And sometimes they would go to other life times. At those times they went to lives that affected this one.
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
I would like to share a few thoughts & observations:
Regarding the fingerprints...
Researchers appear to agree that the fingerprints do not change after week 16 of prenancy. The details + much more are e.g. described in a 2005 article, titled Fingerprint Formation:
http://math.arizona.edu/~anewell/publications/Fingerprint_Formation.pdf

Regarding the soul...
I think that basically the soul is a religious/spiritual concept... and there are multiple perceptions about what the soul really is - and there are also multiple perceptions about when the soul enters the body:
- in Christianity the body & soul are not seperate (so, from that point of view the soul is just a philosophical concept):
http://christianblogs.christianet.com/1182614867.htm
- in Judaism there are multiple view: some believe that the soul enters the body when we are born, while others believe that this happens at 40 days after conception (week 7 = 2nd month):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-existence
- but I am sure that there are other spiritual beliefs available, for example: the one which assumes two souls can not enter the same body - which also implicates that the soul enters the body at birth via the crown chackra:
http://www.enotalone.com/article/2903.html
So, regarding the soul... there are multiple answers available, which appear to depend on how the soul is defined.

Pamelah, maybe you can share more details about Dr. Michael Newton's work? Maybe name one of his sources?
Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
Pamelah wrote:In reading about Dr. Michael Newton's work, one of the things he discovered is that most of the time the soul enters the body about 4 months after birth. This is the same time the fingerprints are fully formed...
Thanks for this reference Pamelah. I looked up Dr. Michael Newton's work on the internet, fascinating stuff! As Martijn points out (thanks for the references Martijn), the "soul entering the body" really is a matter of personal belief.
Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
Are you saying that when a child is 4months old the soul enters the body.Surely I have got this wrong.
Jeanette.
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
Pamelah, you wrote 'after birth'... but since the fingerprints develop before birth, you probably meant to write (thanks Lynn - edit: ) 'after conception'.Pamelah wrote:In reading about Dr. Michael Newton's work, one of the things he discovered is that most of the time the soul enters the body about 4 months after birth. This is the same time the fingerprints are fully formed. The soul peruses the body before entering most of the time and the brain tissue isn't developed enough until 4 months after conception.
Correct?
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
You also believe that the soul enters the body 4 months after birth and so do the fingerprints. This is something new. I do not think so, I think they both arrive 4 months after conception. Please explain. Thanks.
Jeanette.
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
"You also believe that the soul enters the body 4 months after birth and so do the fingerprints"
I didn't say I had any belief about the soul entering the body.
I said I thought Pamelah meant 4 months after conception (same time as fingerprints formed).
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
Pamelah says that the soul enters the body 4months after birth, as do the fingerprints and I thought you were saying that was what you believed too. Sorry misunderstanding.
Jeanette.
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One source of Dr Newton's work is through Shirley MacLaine's book, Sage-ing while Age-ing. That's where I was first introduced to these concepts.
The reason this makes sense to me is because 10,000 people who regressed through hypnosis came to the same awarenesses during their regressions, along with other awarenesses. It's not a matter of belief for these people, it's a matter of personal memory and experience.
When you read his work, this will make more sense, I'm guessing. Here is a quote directionly from Shirley's book.
Dr. Michael Newton has hypnotically regressed over ten thousand patients and for some reason unbeknownst to him, they all go to the experience of life between lives in order to see how they prepared and chose the next life’s experience. I found that very interesting.
"It all began for Dr. Newton with one of his first patients, who was suffering from excruciating body pain in certain areas in his body. He put the patient into deep hypnosis (Newton is a hypnosis therapist) and asked him to go to the source of his pain. Suddenly, the patient said he was on a battlefield in World War I, being bayoneted. Newton, amazed and incredulous, asked many questions, including his name rank, serial number, date of birth, etc. The man was English. Newton later went to England to the British War Museum, The War Office, etc. and long story short, all the dates and events coincided with the patient’s recall. He was receiving referred pain from his last past life in his last physical body! Newton worked with him to release the memory of the pain, and when the patient woke, he was healed.
"Just as we relive present day problems from our childhoods we relive pain from our past life problems. Our conscious and the unconscious mind are our finest doctors of diagnostics, if only we knew how to access the knowledge. Our souls are never at rest. They are constantly working, evaluating, accessing and experiencing. One of the reasons we need sleep is because the soul needs to touch and connect with the unconscious to assess its experience to figure things out.
"According to the patients that Dr. Newton has regressed, they say each life builds on the next one like a spiral, the soul realizing and evaluating what it needs to face and perfect. From his research the souls say the decision to enter a new body comes after they see a fetus with at least four months of development in the womb, almost never before, because there is not enough developed brain tissue to interact and work with. The soul and the brain are two separate entities. The brain does “die” after death but the soul is immortal. Some souls, according to Newton and his patients don’t enter the body until after birth.
"Before entering a new mind and body, a soul peruses the DNA, the neurological map and the karmic pattern of the family it will be entering into. A soul is always given a choice as to what it wants to experience and learn next time around. It’s given a choice of bodies (male or female; many souls alternate so they can be more understanding of each.)"
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
Thanks for clearing that up and all the information. A few years ago I read books on past lives and I think the author was David Weiss. It was so interesting. I think one of the books was called Past Lives Past Masters. He also said that people coming back got to chose. I also think it was in one of his books he told about Glen Ford, film star, who, under regression, recalled several past lives. Thanks again.
Jeanette.
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I have just ordered Michael Newton's book Journey of Souls. I had never heard of him, but that other writer I mentioned wrote about the same. I remember him saying that sometimes people left one life and right away went to another. Like you said about the soldier being wounded, it was so quick into the next life he took the pain with him. He also said that babies who cried a lot and were very unsettled could be the result of arrriving quick from a previous life.Thanks again but I wondering where I can keep all these books I now have.
Jeanette.
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
I just spotted your video about this topic!
An excellent moment to illustrate how you can use your videos at this forum as well... therefore I am introducing your video below:
past lives related to hands
jeanette wrote:Hi Pamelah,
Thanks for clearing that up and all the information. A few years ago I read books on past lives and I think the author was David Weiss. It was so interesting. I think one of the books was called Past Lives Past Masters. He also said that people coming back got to chose. I also think it was in one of his books he told about Glen Ford, film star, who, under regression, recalled several past lives. Thanks again.
Jeanette.
Jeanette, I think that is Brian Weiss. I've recalled about 30 of my other lives. They all relate to this one - the ones I've remembered. And of course there are streams of consciousness about why I've chosen the fingerprints I have based on the memories of those other lives.
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Video on fingerprints/Life Purpose
Martijn (admin) wrote:Hi Pamelah,
I just spotted your video about this topic!
An excellent moment to illustrate how you can use your videos at this forum as well... therefore I am introducing your video below:
Thanks, Martijn. This is great news. I didn't know videos could be posted here. I have one on Gift Markings too. Maybe I'll start another topic on that.
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video on fingeprrints/Life Purpose
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Thanks for the reply. Could I ask you did someone regress you or did you find these past lives by yourself, if so, how did you do this. Thanks.
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Thanks for the reply. So interesting.
Jeanette.
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Re: Soul entering body + fingerprints formed
See : In Islamic Section
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul
Also search another websites regarding soul concept in Islam.You may find thousands of websites in this concept.
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