Six (Seven) Hand Type formations V/S Four (Element) Hand Type formations

**Upendrasingh Bhadoriya** Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:43 pm

Respected all members
Namaste
We all are familiar with various types of classifications of hand formations. I would like to know, what similarities between Six (Seven) Type of formations V/S Four (Element) type of formations are. What are advantages and disadvantage of these systems?
This is a forum, where many of us are using Six (Seven) Type of formations and many are using Four (Element) type formations. Some of them are using both at a time also. Hence all are requested to put their opinions about them. You are requested to give some ideas, how to recognize them and their indications.

**Martijn (admin)** Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:39 pm

Hello U.B.,

I assume you are you talking about the 'hand types'?

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**Upendrasingh Bhadoriya** Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:58 pm

Martijnji
Namaste

Yes, you are right. I am talking about the 'hand types' because it very easy to say or write about them but at the time of hand reading, it is very difficult to recognize them in proper manner. Actually it is a very serious matter. If we are not making ( Forum Members) effort to identify them by our knowledge sharing, then our motto is not going to fulfill.

**Martijn (admin)** Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:16 pm

(Thanks for your confirming answer)

Yes, I understand your point: the concepts of the hand types have been described quite a few books, but the criteria for how to recognize each of the hand types is not always very specific.

For example:

In both systems a 'square shaped palm' is discriminated from a 'rectangle shaped palm'... however a truely 'square shaped palm' is actually very rare (because in 95% of people the palm length is larger than the palm width).

Dear U.B.,

Maybe you can share with us your observations regarding this topic? I would love to hear your ideas/options for an approach to solve this problem - or at least to make a step ahead, etc.

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**Upendrasingh Bhadoriya** Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:32 pm

Earth Hand

1 An air hand has a square palm and long fingers.
http://www.suite101.com/content/palm-reading-describes-four-personality-types-a91142

2 Earth hands are generally identified by broad, square palms and fingers, thick or coarse skin, and ruddy color. The length of the palm from wrist to the bottom of the fingers is usually equal to the length of the fingers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmistry

3 The pure earth hand is solid and well built, with a square palm and short, well built fingers. The very few palmar lines will be solidly etched into the palms, giving the hand a very calm and robust appearance. Skin Texture is likely to be coarse with the skin ridges easily seen.
http://www.destle.com/article/SAMIR-SRIVASTAVA/Elements-of-Palmistry.htm

4 Big, hard and heavy hands which are broad and thick at the wrist tell of a strong emphasis of earth.
http://www.handlesen.de/?lnk=grundlagen&lng=en

5 Earth Hand: Physical
A square palm with few and clear lines. Earth Hands are down-to-earth, practical and responsible, but can also be materialistic, serious and stubborn. They are comfortable with the physical and the tangible, and will do things the tried and tested way.
http://www.palmistryworld.com/readingpalms.htm

6 Earth Hand
Square palm + short fingers = Earth Hand

The Earth hand is square and solid. The fingers are short and the palm exhibits few lines. Those that do appear are strong and well defined.
http://www.astropalmistry.com/chirognomy.html

Air Hand

1 An earth hand is composed of a square hand with short fingers about the same length as the palm.
http://www.suite101.com/content/palm-reading-describes-four-personality-types-a91142

2 Air hands exhibit square or rectangular palms with long fingers and sometimes protruding knuckles, low-set thumbs, and often dry skin. The length of the palm from wrist to the bottom of the fingers is usually equal to the length of the fingers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmistry

3 The Fire hands have square or rectangular palms. Their skin is usually flushed or pink. The fingers are comparatively short. The length of the palm from the wrist to the bottom of the fingers is usually greater than the length of the fingers.
http://www.destle.com/article/SAMIR-SRIVASTAVA/Elements-of-Palmistry.htm

4 Slim, long-fingered hands with narrow, dainty and insubstantial palms primarily stand for the influence of air.
http://www.handlesen.de/?lnk=grundlagen&lng=en

5 Air Hand: Mental
An oblong palm with many and clear lines. Air Hands are sociable, talkative and witty, but can also be shallow, spiteful and cold. They are comfortable with the mental and the intangible, and like doing things in different and radical ways.
http://www.palmistryworld.com/readingpalms.htm

6 Air Hand
Square palm + long fingers = Air Hand

The Air hand has long fingers and tends to have an abundance of clear lines in the palm.
http://www.astropalmistry.com/chirognomy.html

Water Hand

1 A water hand can be recognized by an oblong palm (longer than it is wide) and long fingers. See "Air Hand" for the meaning of long fingers.
http://www.suite101.com/content/palm-reading-describes-four-personality-types-a91142

2 Water hands are seeable by the short, sometimes oval-shaped palm, with long, flexible, conical fingers. The length of the palm from wrist to the bottom of the fingers is usually less than the width across the widest part of the palm, and usually equal to the length of the fingers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmistry

3 The Water hands can be identified by their long and sometimes oval shaped palms. The fingers of water hands are generally long, flexible or conical. The length of the palm from the writs to the bottom of the fingers is usually less than the width across the widest part of the palm and usually equal to the length of the fingers.
http://www.destle.com/article/SAMIR-SRIVASTAVA/Elements-of-Palmistry.htm

4 Full and soft pawn-like hands, always well padded and sometimes moist, reveal much water.
http://www.handlesen.de/?lnk=grundlagen&lng=en

5 Water Hand: Intuitive
A fan-shaped palm, with many and fine lines. Water Hands are creative, perceptive and sympathetic, but can be moody, emotional and inhibited. They are introverts and tend to do things quietly and intuitively.
http://www.palmistryworld.com/readingpalms.htm

Water Hand
Oblong palm + long fingers = Water hand
Water hands have many fine, spidery lines and both the palm and the fingers are long.
http://www.astropalmistry.com/chirognomy.html

Fire Hand

1 A fire hand has an oblong palm and fingers significantly shorter than the palm. See "Earth Hand" for a definition of short fingers.
http://www.suite101.com/content/palm-reading-describes-four-personality-types-a91142

2 Fire hands are characterized by a square or rectangular palm, flushed or pink skin, and shorter fingers. The length of the palm from wrist to the bottom of the fingers is usually greater than the length of the fingers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmistry

3 The Water hands can be identified by their long and sometimes oval shaped palms. The fingers of water hands are generally long, flexible or conical. The length of the palm from the writs to the bottom of the fingers is usually less than the width across the widest part of the palm and usually equal to the length of the fingers.
http://www.destle.com/article/SAMIR-SRIVASTAVA/Elements-of-Palmistry.htm

4 Flexibly tensed, strong hands which bear an impressive thumb and which shake hands very firmly indicate blazing fire.
http://www.handlesen.de/?lnk=grundlagen&lng=en

5 Fire Hand: Instinctive
A triangular palm, with few and fine lines. Fire Hands are spontaneous, enthusiastic and optimistic, but can also be egoistic, impulsive and insensitive. They are extroverts, and prefer to do things boldly and instinctively.
http://www.palmistryworld.com/readingpalms.htm

Fire Hand
Oblong palm + short fingers = Fire Hand
A hand with an elongated palm and short fingers fits into the Fire classification. The lines in the palm are usually strong and well-defined and the hand may have a busy or vibrant feel to it.
http://www.astropalmistry.com/chirognomy.html

Many of us define them according to their own way hence readers become confused hence there should be a jury of some palmists who will define them in proper manner so that learner can follow them.It is only data collected from some web site I will give book's references later.

**Martijn (admin)** Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:09 pm

Upendrasingh Bhadoriya wrote:Many of us define them according to their own way hence readers become confused hence there should be a jury of some palmists who will define them in proper manner so that learner can follow them.It is only data collected from some web site I will give book's references later.

Dear U.B., I think your major observation is correct: the hand characteristics mentioned in those 'theories' have hardly been defined with details... resulting in that any of the related theories do not go much beyond the attempt of a wild guess.

But despite the lack of details, we are also faced with more fundamental problems. Because when speaking about 'short fingers', one can do that only in terms of the perspective of other hand dimensions. But these likewise are relative to other dimensions, etc.

In earlier discussions we have explored the possibilities to step out of this perspective where every hand dimension is relatively to other hand dimensions, but my conclusion is that this is hardly possible without starting to make a large amount of measurements - which induces new problems, see the following discussions:
- https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t187-how-long-is-your-pinky-finger-really
- https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t245-which-country-has-the-largest-hands-in-the-world

But I think that any jury will be faced with the same problems, so I don't see how a jury would help to solve these problems.

Thanks!

**Martijn (admin)** Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:01 am

Mark Seltman recently presented a short description of the 4 elemental hand types:
http://blog.markseltman.com/2012/12/04/palmistry-and-the-four-basic-archetypes/

He e.g. uses four words to describe each hand shape (see the picture below).

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