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Post  sv-b on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:31 pm

Hello martijn,

The matter is, How are you going to prove the theory of water hand Vs. air hand theories with this examples? That's all the deal here! we, all almost know the basic elementary theories !
Smile Responsiblity remains here....

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:38 pm


Stalin, I only responded to your first comment because you mentioned 'air hand':

stalin.v wrote:I would like to class this women hand as Air hand though the palm length is bigger than fingers. I include hand and finger signature too when class the hand in elemental method.
... because she doesn't have the requirement of a 'square palm' as e.g. described by Lynn.


Stalin, please take notice of my EDIT-comment above the photo of Heidi's hand that I shared in my first response.

I hope my response now makes sense for you!?

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Post  sv-b on Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:21 pm

Hello martijn, Smile

Theories have been invalidated when it is not able to fullfil the need of practical. we can find here how elementary cheirology misleads many palmists. I'm not here for arguements, though i can. I could just highlight how the elemental cheirology misleads many peoples like you by providing this kind of visual example or evidence.

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Post  Lynn on Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:05 pm

hi stalin.

Martijn is correct in saying that Heidi Klum has a water handshape (long narrow palm, long fingers). Air handshape that you mention is square palm, long fingers.
You are correct in saying that "numerous fine lines on palm" are a water feature, but they are assessed separately from handshape.
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we can find here how elementary cheirology misleads many palmists.
It isn't misleading at all, it is a very structured, practical, useful and accurate system. But I think that 5 element chirology can be confusing for people who haven't studied it!
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we, all almost know the basic elementary theories !
Some people know the basic theories behind the elements but don't know how to apply it to all the various features of the hand. It is a long course of study.

If you want to discuss 5 element system more, we can start a new topic on 5 element chirology subforum.
There is a basic introduction in the link Martijn posted here https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/iiib-elemental-chirology-f3/intro-to-5-element-chirology-t21.htm
and more discussion here
https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/iiib-elemental-chirology-f3/discussion-on-hand-types-via-the-elements-t204.htm


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Post  Martijn (admin) on Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:19 pm

Okay Lynn - thanks for confirming the point that I made in my response to stalin.

(And of course: if a member demonstrates that he/she misunderstood the basic elements of any hand reading system ... that person is not in the position to describe that system as 'misleading')

Thumbs up!


PS. Maybe, stalin's comment had been more sensible if he had used the word: 'misunderstanding', or the word: 'confusing' (instead of the word 'misleading')...???

lol!

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Post  Lynn on Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:30 pm

further discussion about 5 element hand analysis has been moved to:

https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/iiib-elemental-chirology-f3/discussion-on-5-element-system-starting-with-heidi-klum-s-hands-t393.htm#3213

Back to Heidi. Thanks Martijn & Pamelah for telling me who she is!

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Post  Pamelah on Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:41 am

I agree she has a water shaped hand. And more interestingly an air heart line (Romantic Idealist) so she could use both elements well if she's conscious of it.

What interests me most is her high set Apollo finger. It's unusually high set. I see this as a high need for applause and appreciation. fortunately she has a life style that gets both and I'm sure it keeps her motivated to be in the spotlight.
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