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Post  jeanette Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:57 am

Martijin,
Would you be able to get any pictures of Jimmy Saville's hands who died recently. He was very eccentric and I think it would be interesting to see what showed in his hands.
Thanks,
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Post  Martijn (admin) Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:25 pm


At your service....

A few impressions from the hands of Jimmy Savile (31 October 1926 – 29 October 2011), a disk jockey who became known as the first the first- and last presenter of the long-running BBC chart show 'TOP OF THE POPS'.


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Post  jeanette Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:02 pm

Thanks a lot, Despite his public display they say he was a loner. I think he must have also felt insecure with all the rings on his fingers, even one on the right thumb.
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Post  Martijn (admin) Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:31 pm

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Hi Jeanette,

I must admit, I never heared about this man before you mentioned his name - but I know the music program 'Top of the Pops' (which has been re-produced in The Netherlands as well).

Quite a fascinating guy... wikipedia e.g. reports that Jimmy was an eccentric bachelor who dress with fancy golden attributes, but he also spend his life living with his mother untill she died, but also a MENSA member - so he I can imagine that he probably was a very funny, intelligent, music commentator.

Such a curious fellow he was!


Thanks!


Louis Theroux interviewing Jimmy Savile:

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Post  jeanette Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:02 pm

Hi Martijin'
Thanks for the interview. I laughed. You got it right when you said such a curious fellow he was. I always thought he was so funny, but he didn't realise it being eccentric. That recent photo shows his pinkie sticking out quite far.
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Post  Roosi Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:40 pm

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Hi Jeanette and Martijin
Thank you for sharing this.

Like Martijin I never heard about this man before.

In this video his hands are also in big picture. Smile

What a great storyteller and stories to tell



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Post  jeanette Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:09 pm

Thanks Roosi I hadn't seen that interview and really enjoyed it.
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Post  Patti Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:32 pm

jeanette wrote:Hi Martijin'
Thanks for the interview. I laughed. You got it right when you said such a curious fellow he was. I always thought he was so funny, but he didn't realise it being eccentric. That recent photo shows his pinkie sticking out quite far.
Jeanette.

In the first video the interviewer mentions sleeping with a woman and he responds about not wanting to sleep with them and two hours of socialing with them was enough.

The far outstretched little finger would be associated with that comment. Not wanting to be with the same person for too long a stretch of time. Need for personal space.

EDIT: (Oct.,2012) I wondered about his sexuality when I wrote the above comment.



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Post  Lynn Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:18 am

(edit - update Oct 2012 - A huge scandal has recently come to light, that Jimmy Savile sexually abused numerous people, many of them very vulnerable young people, over many years. Every day more people are coming forward with allegations about this.)

Jimmy Savile did a lot of work for charity, especially Stoke Mandeville Hospital where he raised over 40 million pounds to build the National Spinal Injuries Centre. He was running marathons at least up to age 79. He was the first DJ to use a double deck and the first person ever to host a disco with records. Many years ago, he was the highest paid wrestler in the world!

here's another video about him, Brits will remember his catchphrases... "now then, now then", "as it 'appens", " 'ow about that then?" "guys and gals"; his "clunk-click" safety adverts, Jim'll Fix It Tv programmes.....





Here are Jimmy Savile's hand prints from the book "Star Palms" by Sue Armstrong 1988

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Post  Patti Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:06 am

I was just looking through my Fred Gettings books and came across this in Palmistry The Future in Your Hand (1966):

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Incredible to see that in both handprints of his left hand, the length of the pinky finger is longer than his thumb - rather remarkable!

(Great post Patti & Lynn!)

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Post  Patti Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:18 pm

Martijn (admin) wrote:
Incredible to see that in both handprints of his left hand, the length of the pinky finger is longer than his thumb - rather remarkable!

(Great post Patti & Lynn!)


Yes it is remarkable!
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Post  zaobhand Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:33 am

Patti, the scan from Getting's book is really nice. I can't see, however, any significant 'intuition' or 'Mercury' line in his hands...
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Post  Patti Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:09 am

zaobhand wrote:Patti, the scan from Getting's book is really nice. I can't see, however, any significant 'intuition' or 'Mercury' line in his hands...

You really have to look for it. It looks sort of 'man-made'. Like from experiences in life he developed abilities to work with his gut feelings and intuition. Rather than have the Line of Intuition with clear curves into Mercury and Pluto (or lower corner of the palm) from birth.
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Post  Kiran.Katawa Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:37 am

Martijn (admin) wrote:
Incredible to see that in both handprints of his left hand, the length of the pinky finger is longer than his thumb - rather remarkable!

(Great post Patti & Lynn!)

Hi Martijn , what is the significance with pinky being lenghties than thumb? What info can we decipher out of this?
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Post  zaobhand Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:55 am

Patti wrote:
zaobhand wrote:Patti, the scan from Getting's book is really nice. I can't see, however, any significant 'intuition' or 'Mercury' line in his hands...

You really have to look for it. It looks sort of 'man-made'. Like from experiences in life he developed abilities to work with his gut feelings and intuition. Rather than have the Line of Intuition with clear curves into Mercury and Pluto (or lower corner of the palm) from birth.

Ok, I think I see a faint line of intuition on his right hand from Getting's book, but it seems absent on the images posted by Lynn.
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Post  Patti Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:35 pm

zaobhand wrote:
Patti wrote:
zaobhand wrote:Patti, the scan from Getting's book is really nice. I can't see, however, any significant 'intuition' or 'Mercury' line in his hands...

You really have to look for it. It looks sort of 'man-made'. Like from experiences in life he developed abilities to work with his gut feelings and intuition. Rather than have the Line of Intuition with clear curves into Mercury and Pluto (or lower corner of the palm) from birth.

Ok, I think I see a faint line of intuition on his right hand from Getting's book, but it seems absent on the images posted by Lynn.

Gettings may been referring to the Mercury lines in general and calling them the "Line of Intuition" as he goes on to describe having an emotional grasp on what is happening.
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Post  zaobhand Tue May 01, 2012 1:35 am

Kiran.Katawa wrote:
Martijn (admin) wrote:
Incredible to see that in both handprints of his left hand, the length of the pinky finger is longer than his thumb - rather remarkable!

(Great post Patti & Lynn!)

Hi Martijn , what is the significance with pinky being lenghties than thumb? What info can we decipher out of this?

Hi Kiran, I would guess that since Mercury finger represents the other and the thumb represents the self, he would become excessive in social situations which is why he needed to be by himself to conserve energies. Just playing with this idea..
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Post  Kiran.Katawa Tue May 01, 2012 2:55 am

Okay. That's a good point.
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Post  Lynn Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:48 pm

update Oct 2012 - A huge scandal has recently come to light, that Jimmy Savile sexually abused numerous people, many of them very vulnerable young people & children, over many years. At the BBC, in his charity work in childrens homes and hospitals. Every day more victims are coming forward with allegations about this.
(edit - today the news reports almost 300 victims).
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Post  yogiman Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:38 pm

What does a straight little finger signify in the hand of a liar? Does it point towards sociopathy?

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Post  Martijn (admin) Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:26 pm

yogiman wrote:What does a straight little finger signify in the hand of a liar? Does it point towards sociopathy?

I really wonder why you associate a straight little finger with sociopathy...??? (Because I think it does not make any sense at all to associate a NORMAL hand feature - a straight pinky finger - with sociopathy)

The major 'atavistic' feature in Savile's hand concerns the length of his pinky, which is very long... and  both hands prints that were shared earlier in this topic suggest that in his LEF HAND the pinky finger is even longer than the thumb!

This implicates that he has a so-called '3D>4D>2D>5D>1D' digit formula... which is typical for apes & monkeys, see the first table:
http://www.handresearch.com/news/hand-shape-genes-chromosomes-dna.htm

(I have already mentioned the significance of this feature in my earlier post in december 2011:
https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t1344-the-hands-of-jimmy-savile-1926-2011#14636 )


PS. I think his behavior can also be partly be recognized to have risen from a combi of trends seen in the pop-music scene & the hippi culture of the 70's, with sexual inhibition as a major theme... and the combination of an 'atavistic' long pinky fingers combined with a low 2d:4d digit ratio (see his hand prints & various photos) kind of illustrates that Jimmy Savile was probably hardly able to control his testosterone.


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Post  yogiman Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:43 pm

Martijn, ofcourse you know what I mean. His life was a big lie, and according to the books one would expect a very crooked little finger, which is not the case. The term sociopathy is admittedly too charged. And there are lots of other instances.

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Post  Martijn (admin) Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:04 pm

yogiman wrote:Martijn, ofcourse you know what I mean. His life was a big lie, and according to the books one would expect a very crooked little finger, which is not the case.

In a way, one can argue here that he was 'straight forward' regarding the communication of his sexual needs towards the (many) people he got involved with behind closed doors.

Actually, since it is perfectly normal not to talk about private sexual relationships publicly (especially when there are plenty)... I think his problem was not a matter of 'authenticity', it was the culture surrounding him that allowed him to satisfy his primitive needs - which he subjectively might even have associated with expressing his so-called 'love'.

Again, the pattern of behavior already started at a time when 'sexual liberation' had become a major theme in Western Society in the 1970's... at a time where Indian Gurus like for example Bhagwan also 'suggested' that polygamy is normal.

Later the social sexual standards became more normalized... but Savile's behavior apparently never went through a similar process.

By the way, Jimmy Savile did not talk much about his 'private' life in general; his Wikipedia page also does not mention a single word about any 'lies' at all, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile
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Post  yogiman Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:11 pm

The pinkies of the worldleaders past and present, inside and outside the United States do miraculously well. I can't imagine that any of them had a finger surgery, and this should be confirmed by pictures in their youth.

The form of our fingers is determined by birth. Could the truth lie hidden in the mount of mercury?

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