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Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:36 pm


Mitt Romney's hands are known as unusually soft.

While the Republican presidential campaign has only started last week... it appears that there is only one candidate left that could beat Barack Obama in november 2012 for the most wanted job in the world. The man's name is: Mitt Romeny, and his hands are being described as soft as the finest imported fabrics: "touching him is like strangling a baby".

Knowing that Obama's hands are featured with large amounts of calluses (see the photo below)... could this significant difference among the hands of both men 'signal' the style of the presidential campaign this summer?

Also, remember: 5 out of the last 7 US presidents were left handed - which is in favour of Obama (including Romney, all 2012 Republican candidates are right handed).

And Romney's hands are 'squarish' with 'slightly short fingers', while Obama's hands are 'rectangular' with 'long fingers'.

Which of these men will be able to 'please' the American voters? And what other hand features could make the difference regarding the outcome of the 2012 US presidential campaign?

I think Romney's hands show what it takes to become the next US president - see: http://www.handresearch.com/news/time-presidential-palm-readings-kennedy-obama.htm

Regarding Obama: we know that his rhetorics are excellent & fascinating, but the Obama approval index shows how he lost momentum among Americans since the summer of 2009. Will Obama be able to re-gain confidence among the Americans with the 'spirit' he demonstrated in 2008?



Barack Obama's hands are featured with calluses.



Romney vs. Obama's hands:




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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:38 pm


Once can follow de nationwide polls on the Republican elections via:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

(Mitt Romney is still well ahead; though with only 3 potential competitors left his winning position became slightly weaker during the week before the South Carolina primary elections - that was won yesterday by Gingrich. By the way, last week Mitt Romney was e.g. endorsed by Huntsman, who used to be one of the former candidates.)

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:49 pm



With 2 days ahead of the republican primary election in the state of Florida, the polls indicate that Mitt Romney is a double digit percentage ahead of his last competitor Newt Gingrich.

So, it looks like Mitt Romney will compete with Barack Obama later this year for the office President of the United Stated of America.

Boston.com reports:

"Women back Romney over Gingrich by 19 percentage points, a commanding lead that was also reflected in the NBC News/Marist poll released today. That poll shows Romney ahead 42 percent to 27 percent overall and up 47-26 percent among women.

In the Miami Herald/El Nuevo Herald/Tampa Bay Times poll, Romney gets 52 percent of Hispanic voters, compared with 28 percent for Gingrich. Romney is also polling ahead of Obama among Hispanic voters in Florida. Romney got 53 percent, compared with 37 percent for Obama. Florida has a heavy Cuban population, which tends to vote for Republicans."



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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:00 pm



With 2 days ahead of 'Super Tuesday' (when primary elections will take place in 10 US states), the latest national polls indicate the Republican voters finally understood that their elections were sabotaged by democratic voters - falsely suggesting that other republican candidate would make a chance against Barack Obama.

Still, the US national polls indicate that only 35% (higher than ever before) of the Republican voters is now convinced that Romney should become the Republican nominee, see:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html



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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Patti on Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:17 am



The passion line diving into the dupuytrens would translate back to me, that how he acts on that passion is influenced by inhibitions and restrictions.

I think this energy is redirected into love and passion for power and total control. That being shown by his fate lines and long ring fingers.

Manfred, is that what you would interpret as a milieu line in the left hand, as Spier would as have interpreted it?

This fate line coming in from inside his right hand's life line and running parallel on the outside as it aims up to the index finger, fades out before the head line. That entire combination to me would sum up to someone with a mission from birth. The family most likely had plans for him early on.




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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:27 pm


Hi Patti,

Thanks for drawing the attention to the scar/bump between his heart line and head line in Mitt Romney's left hand. Just found this impression below, which shows a rather unusual 'V-like' line shape going through the heart line.

Is that the scar/bump the aspect which you associated with Dupuytren's?


By the way, Romeny's sun lines are not very strong - so his chances for becoming the next US president should probably do not depend on his looks & charm, because that is that is not his core-strength. Obama should beat him on that aspect, but the election is likely to be decided on the state of the economy.... which is obviously not Obama's cup of tea.



Mitt Romney's left hand:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Romney_2011_Paradise_Valley%2C_AZ_rally.jpg

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Patti on Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:03 pm

Yes, the nature of the bump under the heart line has the appearance of Dupuytrens in how it draws the skin toward itself.

The diagonal line that goes and touches the heart line is the one I was calling the passion line. But I can see in the photo you uploaded there is another diagonal crease closer to under the little finger (2nd passion line - closer to little finger - intense communication) (maybe he likes to fire people who don't do a good job for him Wink )

That crease or indentation moves into the scarred area and moves back up through the mole (which interestingly isn't noticible in other images!)

The dupuytrens has likely exaggerated the indentations or creases around it.

His 'placement' is due to friends in high places and a continuation of a dynasty by association:


I wonder if he's had surgery on the Dupuytrens..? If so, there would be a tiny horizontal scar across the bump. They may have removed the mole which is why it's not visible in other photos??

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:54 pm



Yes Patti, the 'bump' (as seen in the photo above) very much looks like a grade 1 Dupuytren's contracture-like feature (more info, see: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/329414-overview ) - see the picture below.




However, the black spot is definitely not mole (it's probably a pencil-like marker), because there are no photos available which provide the same impression. The photo below is from 2002 - which doesn't show the (black) marker either.




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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Patti on Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:40 pm

Yes, that does look like black ink now that you mention it.

Definitely it's Dupuytrens. Stage 2 and 3 can look like stage 1 after surgery.

Since it's most common under the ring finger, I wonder how that plays into the 2D:4D significance. It wouldn't change the ratio, but it certainly is a contracting of the entire digit when you include the metacarpals. Notice the posture of the ring finger is the same as in the illustration. This is a sort of rigid upright position that doesn't relax into place next to the middle finger when the hand is fully opened.


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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  RishiRahul on Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:17 am

Hi,

Obama-s palm shape has got self confidence, added with the self confidence (separated head and life line); the head line bending healthily shows good imagination supported by the care for detail by the long fingers.

More so, the wonderful thumb, backed the fingers somewhat inclined towards the 'straight' finger of mercury.
His palm has the charm to attract the masses..

Obama's palm is just brilliant and has a magical quality; a flag involving the Sun line; an 'yava' the ages 46 to 54.
Additionally it is a 'doer's' palm as compared to Mitt's, and such palm as Obama's palm deals with good vision for the future.



Around mid April 2012 the picture will become clearer as Mitt Romney might have to make some amendments to his present campaigning.
Obama's palm shows a better rise to power at age 51.75 approx.

Now going to astrology, a bit, the transit saturn shows that there would be some changes in working procedure, more practical,since the one adopted since 2009; and he would be able to some idealistic dreams for the U.S.

This policy planned in this year (2012) would lead to implementation around Mid 2013.

What else to say about the 2012 U.S. elections.

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Manfred on Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:22 am

Dear Patty,

could you please ask your question agyin more precisely?

I'm trying to answer though I can't see the pictures clear enough on my scree:
The left Saturn line accompanies the left Live line in a very similar way. We (or J. Spier) can call this a Saturn line that shows a very strong influence in his youth, with a change later on (during his adolescence) or a kind of breaking away to create his oown fate.
A real Milieu line would be luying between the Fate line and life line, but as I mentioned, his lower Fate line is still showing strong familiy and inviroment influences.

Additionally there is the Mercury line starting inside the Life line on the Mount of Venus. J. Spier would have said here we have a prenatal line that show times of depression of his mother during her pregnancy.

In the right the Satrun line is starting on the lower Venus inside the Life line. Ususally this shows a very strong influence of the Grandparents even in later years.

Children with this often stay in their home during their early youth. Mostly that is very small. Sometimes we find this in hands of people that live in a kind of orphanage during their early years.

Martijn: Thanks for the brilliant fotos!

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Patti on Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:17 am

Manfred wrote:Dear Patty,

could you please ask your question agyin more precisely?

I'm trying to answer though I can't see the pictures clear enough on my scree:
The left Saturn line accompanies the left Live line in a very similar way. We (or J. Spier) can call this a Saturn line that shows a very strong influence in his youth, with a change later on (during his adolescence) or a kind of breaking away to create his oown fate.
A real Milieu line would be luying between the Fate line and life line, but as I mentioned, his lower Fate line is still showing strong familiy and inviroment influences.

Additionally there is the Mercury line starting inside the Life line on the Mount of Venus. J. Spier would have said here we have a prenatal line that show times of depression of his mother during her pregnancy.

In the right the Satrun line is starting on the lower Venus inside the Life line. Ususally this shows a very strong influence of the Grandparents even in later years.

Children with this often stay in their home during their early youth. Mostly that is very small. Sometimes we find this in hands of people that live in a kind of orphanage during their early years.

Martijn: Thanks for the brilliant fotos!

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Thank you Manfred! You did answer my question. I've been thinking/reading lately a lot about eugenics and there were time periods last century when it was suggested only certain people of the finest quality have children. Sometimes in these more well-to-do families that intermarry, I wonder how much the children are groomed to an extent to carry on particular 'traditions' of the family for generations. Looking at Romney's hands that thought came to mind.

So, instead of it being a bad milieu or situation, such as an orphanage, there were instilled restrictions as to having to live up to certain standards and expectations and within an acceptable framework.

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Manfred on Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:54 am

Dear Patty,

additionally: Usually we find prenatal lines (starting from inside the Life line) in the left. If we find it in the right, there is often the before described link the Grandparents. I found the restrictions in fact as small rooms, houses... not only as an expression of the social or mental inviroment.

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:47 pm



Today Mitt Romney sort of became the unofficial republican nominate - after Nick Santorum announced to suspend his campaign and is no longer running for the office President of the United States of America.

(Officially there are still 2 other candidates available, but in practice both men can no longer meet the necessary requirement to win the official nomination)



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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Felicity Martin on Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:03 am

Wonderful insights- the thing that stands out for me in Romney is, in every pose adopting a suppressionist hand position- pushing people away or down- I much prefer Obama's hand as an interesting but sensitive person, under Romney I feel it would be a very materialistic leadership- but then he is a Republican. So the difference is a president who is passionate about health for all- inclusive, as opposed to the greed is good and the poor are there because it is God's will,

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Felicity Martin on Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:12 am

Martijn (admin) wrote:

Yes Patti, the 'bump' (as seen in the photo above) very much looks like a grade 1 Dupuytren's contracture-like feature (more info, see: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/329414-overview ) - see the picture below.




However, the black spot is definitely not mole (it's probably a pencil-like marker), because there are no photos available which provide the same impression. The photo below is from 2002 - which doesn't show the (black) marker either.



I have Dupuytren's contracture in both hands and as it is often idiosyncratic feel at a purely palmist level, that as it is most often the finger of emotions, though psysiologically the weakest of the digits, it can represent for me a life where emotions needed to be suppressed and cognitively overcome through strategies such as compromise, looking at spiritual outlets etc. However I certainly have given my hands a physically tough life!

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:42 pm



Romney's chances for becoming the next US president have started growing significantly after the 1st presidential debate last week:

the latest polls indicate that 47.3% of the Americans want him to win the 2012 presidential election (Obama's support dropped to 46.3%):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html


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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Manfred on Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:53 pm

...sorry for my mistake.


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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Manfred on Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:29 pm

Hi Martijn,

the following is an interesting foto. In the right hand we find the Saturn line beginning inside of the Life line. This means for me a very small home when he was very young. With this here ususally until the 1 1/2 year. Often the hand owner lives with the grandparents or in a kind of boarding school at this time or they play a very important part.

For me Romney's Saturn line is too weak for a responsible politician, special in his later years. But the his direction in the upper part to the Jupiter finger shows a very strong success in leadership in his later liefe time.

By the way, if we examine the Life line of B. Obama we find a change around his end 40ies or beginning 50ies with the kind of restriction. His Saturn line is in the upper part more passionated, often a sign of the important role of the partner. It's less successful than Romney's. Therefore I wouldn't be really shure that Obama will win the next vote.

Addtition: On a better print of R's hand it seems more, that the upper part what I've read as the Saturn line looks here more like the Heart line. With this I would even say it looks idealistic with a leaning for religion, what we all know about him.

The long connection of the Head line with the Life line means hesitation if he has to decide something (in opposition to Obama at this part of the hand).
The strong base of the Jupiter finger means ambition.

The best thing in Romey's hand seems to me the shape of his Mercury finger: A very good money instinct (also in oppositon to Obama's).

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  tajender on Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:18 pm

Hi Manfred
Great observations from your side as usual. Whatd did you see in saturn line to arrive at these conlusions like restriction, passionated etc.

By the way, if we examine the Life line of B. Obama we find a change around his end 40ies or beginning 50ies with the kind of restriction. His Saturn line is in the upper part more passionated, often a sign of the important role of the partner. It's less successful than Romney's. Therefore I wouldn't be really shure that Obama will win the next vote.

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Manfred on Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:23 pm

tajender wrote:Hi Manfred
Great observations from your side as usual. Whatd did you see in saturn line to arrive at these conlusions like restriction, passionated etc.

By the way, if we examine the Life line of B. Obama we find a change around his end 40ies or beginning 50ies with the kind of restriction. His Saturn line is in the upper part more passionated, often a sign of the important role of the partner. It's less successful than Romney's. Therefore I wouldn't be really shure that Obama will win the next vote.

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Hy,

the sign for restriction we find in Obamas hand in the lower part of the Life line, the passionated Saturn line by the link of the SL with the heart line for a short distance or its crossing.

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Astrological prediction....

Post  caledonia on Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:30 am

Douglas Parker wrote in June 2012 that Mitt Romney would become president of the USA...

http://www.astrology-reading.com.au/USA_Presidential_Election_2012_Astrology_Horoscope_Predictions_Forecast.html

I can't understand most of what he says, but the last line of the article is eye catching:

"Romney seems fated to become President of the United States of America. "



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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:49 am



Next tuesday (nov 6, 2012) is US election day:

The polls indicate that the outcome of 7 states (Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio & Virginia) will likely decide who will win the election. So far it looks like Obama's chances are good for winning most of these 7 states (only Florida & Virginia appear most likely to chose Romney)... and therefore Obama continues to be the most likely winner.

But Romney is still very competitive in Colorado, Iowa & New Hampshire - though even if Romney wins those 3 states as well Obama will likely continue to win the election.

Are there any other states where Romney has a small chance to win? Not many, but this week there have been polls in one state (Wisconsin) that resulted in a 'tie'.

So, if Romney would be able to win Wisconsin... that could more likely make him the next US president - but so far Obama's chances look much better to win the overall elemection (Ohio appears to be Obama's key-state to win).


What to their hands say?

Obama has a-typical hands for a US president... but he is a 'lefty'!
Romney has almost everything what it takes to become a US president, but his 'rethorics' (see the contracture-like feature in his left hand) do not compete with Obama's slick speeches.

* TIME's US Presidential Palm Readings
* Most US Presidents are 'lefties'!


Where's the 'Obama-magic' that the world witnessed 4 years ago?

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  Parender on Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:05 pm


Other aspect is numerology.
One abbreviation of name is MR and another is BO.
M=4 + R=2 =6 = Venus
B=2 +O=7 = 9 = Mars

Election will be held on 6th, this favors MR and ruling number of the day is 4, that may favor MR, 6+11+2012=13 or 1+3=4 up to some extent only because Rahu (4) and Moon (2) are neutral.

Election Day is Tuesday (Mars Day), this favors BO greatly because his abbreviation BO is in complete harmony with Tuesday that is # 9. And not less important is the fact that 9 is bigger than 6. In earlier counting MR may seem leading but ultimately BO should win especially if he wears anything of red color on his body on that day and starts day by eating sweet and that result does not declared between 3:00 to 04:30 PM local time.

If we analyze full names of

MITT ROMNEY= 4+1+4+4+2+7+4+5+5+1= 37 0R 10 0R 1 or Sun and

BARACK OBAMA= 2+1+2+1+3+2+7+2+1+4+1= 26 or 8 or Saturn

Election is being held on 6 (Venus) who is enemy to Sun and BO’s
8 (Saturn) is friend to 6 (Venus). So, BO has more chances to win.

The competition will be very tough. See what happens. Enjoy!

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Re: US Presidential hands: Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama!

Post  pravin kumar on Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:12 am

What is the age of Barrack Obama and that of Mitt Romney? Secondly where is the palm snaps of Barrack Obama? Third who palm is show below the picture of 2 palms of MR. Below this snap there is only one palm and whosoever palm it is it is the working palm.


Manfred wrote:Hi Martijn,

the following is an interesting foto. In the right hand we find the Saturn line beginning inside of the Life line. This means for me a very small home when he was very young. With this here ususally until the 1 1/2 year. Often the hand owner lives with the grandparents or in a kind of boarding school at this time or they play a very important part.

For me Romney's Saturn line is too weak for a responsible politician, special in his later years. But the his direction in the upper part to the Jupiter finger shows a very strong success in leadership in his later liefe time.

By the way, if we examine the Life line of B. Obama we find a change around his end 40ies or beginning 50ies with the kind of restriction. His Saturn line is in the upper part more passionated, often a sign of the important role of the partner. It's less successful than Romney's. Therefore I wouldn't be really shure that Obama will win the next vote.

Addtition: On a better print of R's hand it seems more, that the upper part what I've read as the Saturn line looks here more like the Heart line. With this I would even say it looks idealistic with a leaning for religion, what we all know about him.

The long connection of the Head line with the Life line means hesitation if he has to decide something (in opposition to Obama at this part of the hand).
The strong base of the Jupiter finger means ambition.

The best thing in Romey's hand seems to me the shape of his Mercury finger: A very good money instinct (also in oppositon to Obama's).

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