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Post  GoodPalmist on Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:32 am

Hello all,

I recently read about the 'String of Pearls' formation in Altman's book. From the photos in that book, I couldn't grasp what he meant by String of Pearls.
Can someone please spare a few moments to explain it to me or direct me to a good resource.

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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:40 am

It's when a skin ridge row or rows of ridges break down and have a dotted look. Like a string of pearls. like ............. rather than ___________

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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:47 am

If it's fig. 9.9 in Altman's "The Palmistry Workbook" look at the area under the middle finger and between the middle and ring. Also very noticible in the space between close to the end of head line and up to heart line along side the health line.

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Post  bobby32 on Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:47 am

what would the 'string of pearl' signify?

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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:27 pm

bobby32 wrote:what would the 'string of pearl' signify?


Nathanial Altman describes their presence on the hands of people who are as he says neurotic. Mental illness.

I see them on people who are chronically ill and weak - both physically and emotionally, but are still 'functioning' in day to day life.


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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:17 pm

Patti wrote:If it's fig. 9.9 in Altman's "The Palmistry Workbook" look at the area under the middle finger and between the middle and ring. Also very noticible in the space between close to the end of head line and up to heart line along side the health line.


Respected Pattiji
Namaste,

please describe above in detail, what you want say because nothing is mentioned in above book as state above.
Do you want to blend 'String of Pearl' with quotation?


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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:43 pm

Hello Upendrasingh,
Here is the illustration from Altman's book that I was referring to:



I've circled the area's where I mentioned. You can see the broken down ridges in many places on this hand. The ridges have become rows of dots or "strings of pearls".

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Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:10 pm

It is clear.You have not blend it.

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Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:48 pm

Upendrasingh Bhadoriya wrote:It is clear.You have not blend it.


I'm sorry Upendrasingh, I'm not sure what you mean by "You have not blend it".

I really haven't much more information. Maybe someone else can share more indepth information or research.

I have seen the flow of the rows of ridges disturbed every now and then in people's hands. The people I've seen it on have usually been stressed out over a long period or have chronic illnesses that wear them down physically and emotionally.

Occasionally, I have seen it on people's hands who look strong and healthy. I notice that Altman writes that it's on people that are neurotic. When you do a Google search for "string of pearls" palmistry, you can see his newest book. There it seems he's correlated it to sex offenders. I just read that earlier after I posted.

It would be a good idea to keep that in mind when we come across them in people's palms. Although I don't think I could come right out and ask someone if they had sex offender tendancies.

If it's physical illness related to start - then the breaking down of the ridges might relate to a similar breaking down of the mental capacities in some way - leading to neurosis of some sort. Although when you look up the definition of neurosis, it says it's not physical or organ related.

The term "string of pearls" in regards to the break down of the skin ridges has been around a number of years. I'm pretty sure I read about it prior to Altman's books. I was thinking Lori Reid mentioned them.

(I'm away from my books right now on my laptop)

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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:05 pm

This link to another part of Altman's book relates more to how I have seen it - stress and poor health:

String of Pearls


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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:21 pm

Another link:

String of Pearls - Sex Offender

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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:35 pm

GoodPalmist wrote:Hello all,

I recently read about the 'Striing of Pearls' formation in Altman's book. From the photos in that book, I couldn't grasp what he meant by Striing of Pearls.
Can someone please spare a few moments to explain it to me or direct me to a good resource.

Thanks
GP

Hello GoodPalmist,

Yes, you're right to wonder about this.

It is quite funny to notice that Altman has described his comment about the 'string of pearls' in all his books - starting from 1984 (The Palmistry Workbook) to 2009 (Palmistry: The Universal Guide). But during the past 2 decades Altman never really explained how one can recognize this phenomon from his example... nor any other hand!

lol!

Patti wrote:I really haven't much more information. Maybe someone else can share more indepth information or research.


Okay Patti, I will try to do that - by shareing a few observations + a few more details from other sources:


NOTICE: Regarding Altman's example:

In the mount of Venus area one can not see any ridge pattern; but it is unclear why Altman exactly presented that illustration. So Patti, your right: the areas that you marked could be described as an example of 'mild ridge dissociation'.

But one could even wonder if Altman'ss illustration shows really an example of 'ridge dissociation'... because one really needs to use some specified 'criteria' before one can speak of this phenomenon: otherwise a print with a poor quality could easily get confused with 'ridge dissocation'.


There are a few sources available which present more quality info:

1 - This article titled: 'Congenital malformations of human dermatoglypcs' (1973), describes the differences between 'ridge dissociation', 'ridge hypolasia', and 'ridge aplasia' (see page 2):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1648087/pdf/archdisch00867-0027.pdf
NOTICE: this article presents two very clear picture examples of ridge dissociation, see figure 1 and 2


2 - But the best source I have seen so far is the book 'Dermatoglyphics in Schizophrenics' - by Amrita Bagga (1989). See pages 200-202:
http://books.google.com/books?id=xT6To27M_6UC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q&f=false

Bagga described various synonyms for the phenomenon called 'ridge dissociation' - including: 'disrupted ridges', 'dotted ridges', 'pearl-lines', and... 'string-of-pearls'.

And Bagga describes also a method to discriminate 'mild-', 'moderate-', and 'acute ridge dissociation' examples - depending upon the degree of dissociaton. (For example: when a triradius can not be identified, then one could speak of a 'moderate' example, though there are other criteria including the size of the area involved, etc.)

All these names basically refer to same phenomenon, and it appears that an earlier schizophrenia study from 1962 (http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/180/3/215.abstract) was one of the very first studies where 'ridge dissociation' was mentioned.


I hope this has been helpful to understand the phenomenon of the 'stringle-of-pearls' - again, the 1973 article present two much examples of (moderate) 'ridge dissociation'.

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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Patti on Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:24 pm

Great document! Thanks for sharing!

I can't find anything in Lori Reid's or any of the other author's books that I thought may have mentioned String of Pearls, so it might have been from Nathaniel's earlier book that I first became aware of the term.

In David Brandon Jones 1981 (1986 US edition) "Practical Palmistry" he has this illustration:


Yes, I forgot about Bagga's book! Thumb up


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Re: String of pearls (a.k.a. ridge dissociation)

Post  Upendrasingh Bhadoriya on Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:30 am

Respected Martijn and Pattyji
Namaste
To malformed ridges “String of pearls” analogy is given by Dr. Eugene Scheimann, M.D. and Nathaniel Altman but it is given in book of Noel Jaquin in his book ‘The Hand Speaks- Your Health, Your Sex , Your Life’ for chronically diseases published in 1941.


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Post  Patti on Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:28 am

Upendrasingh Bhadoriya wrote:Respected Martijn and Pattyji
Namaste
To malformed ridges “String of pearls” analogy is given by Dr. Eugene Scheimann, M.D. and Nathaniel Altman but it is given in book of Noel Jaquin in his book ‘The Hand Speaks- Your Health, Your Sex , Your Life’ for chronically diseases published in 1941.



Namaste Upendrasingh!
What a great collection of prints with diagnosed cases. Does he use the phrase "string of pearls"? I see on page 84 he says "dot like pieces". Thanks for calling my attention to this book, in the process of looking through it for this topic, I came across something else I had been looking for!
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