Strange bend of top planx of middle finger. Experts please?

Lynn wrote:hi Kiran,
sorry if I misunderstood something. When I said people who feel guilty for things that aren't their fault
I meant people who feel guilt when they didn't do anything wrong.
I thought that's what you were saying about this girl.

Patti wrote:

Although the discussion is leaning toward what it means because of a finger bending toward another finger and that finger's influence, there is also the fact that most of the time this leaning is caused by one side of the finger literally being shorter than the other. The leaning is a visual effect of this difference in length.

In this sense we are looking at a finger, here the middle (and a little the index) fingers being shorter on the ulnar sides than the radial sides.

Patti wrote:With it being a genetic thing - I would think we would be looking at the family constellation of interactions and behaviors. There are often role reversals or polarities that switch between generations.

Sucom wrote: "However, I am not a person to blindly follow, no matter who has put forward the views. No single person knows everything there is to know. I like to question anything and everything. I’m very aware they will have more than enough experience to know the difference between black and white and most likely a particularly large number of shades of grey. I have never been the kind of person to say ‘Well, it must be true because so and so said it.’"

mirrzzaa wrote:
Sucom & Kiran,

u both have detailed discussion on this topic and it is very informative and useful for us,and am very happy that i joined this forum,

I have too my Saturn finger which is bending toward the Apollo finger, and Apollo bending toward Saturn, hence both Saturn and Apollo bend toward each other, with Sloppy brain line which end in the middle lunar area, but did not feel myself guilty as Lynn said "people who feel guilty for things that aren't their fault"

its strange the my Jupiter finger is too bending toward Saturn finger.

As Sucom said

Many thanks for posting this. Looking at Jenna’s thoughts, two words in particular stood out from all the rest and these were ‘alone time’. These stood out for me because they are words I personally identify with. Now, someone else reading Jenna’s thoughts might find themselves pulled to the words ‘double standards’ or ‘rebelliousness’ or ‘difficulty in coping with responsibility’.

am agree with Sucom because i like to live "alone time" with myself to discover the secrets of life and universe.

Patti wrote:Hi Kiran,
I'll write more tomorrow, but here's an image from eatonhand.com



Notice how the middle phalange in the left image shows the radial side as shorter? I said 'visual effect' because the distal phalange is forced appear to bend over due to the shortened side. It isn't actually being 'influenced' or pulled to the ring finger. When/if the bone is corrected, the finger will straighten.

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Hi Patti, yes, I could see it.

can you pls elaborate on - "With it being a genetic thing - I would think we would be looking at the family constellation of interactions and behaviors. There are often role reversals or polarities that switch between generations."

Patti wrote:

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Hi Patti, yes, I could see it.

can you pls elaborate on - "With it being a genetic thing - I would think we would be looking at the family constellation of interactions and behaviors. There are often role reversals or polarities that switch between generations."

Hi Kiran,
I was referring to it being a characteristic or way of being that is perpetuated within family systems. Very often people in relationships play roles that are like two sides of the same coin.

One of the first times I noticed this was with a friend and her mother who were constantly fighting and seemed to be opposite of each other because they could never agree. The mother was strongly religious and very conventional in her lifestyle. The daughter had chosen an alternative life style and was a master Reiki therapist and had chosen a spirituality that was Native American oriented. Listening to their passionate arguments and my friend sharing confidences, it became pretty obvious they were really pretty much alike and both dearly wanted the other to accept them and understand their perspectives, but they couldn't stop arguing in disagreement.

Here, on another thread we have Sailee writing about her disagreements with her parents, her mother in particular. She shares mainly her side where we see that the mother is being overly picky and demanding and the daughter is feeling misused. But, at the same time when you read through the thread you will pick up that the daughter has some of the characteristics that she complains about in her mother. For instance early on she says that she is expected to do things that is really her parent's responsibility because they are the adults. Yet she is also an adult, now.

Sometimes family constellations are described as or compared to a wind chime or mobile. When one part moves it makes the rest start moving. Over time families develop patterns of behavior with different members taking on various roles. These roles are often complimentary or opposite of each other.

Patti wrote:Since it's shown to be passed down through generations, I'd think it would relate to something that could be seen in the family members that have this feature.

Kiran.Katawa wrote:

Patti wrote:Since it's shown to be passed down through generations, I'd think it would relate to something that could be seen in the family members that have this feature.

This is true for all the hand features. But, why are you pointing on the role reversals in specific?
And do you associate role reversals only for bent Saturns or for any other features also?

Patti wrote:
With it being a genetic thing - I would think we would be looking at the family constellation of interactions and behaviors. There are often role reversals or polarities that switch between generations.

Patti wrote:
I think you are trying to apply my thoughts as a meaning to the bent finger..?

Patti wrote:Hi Kiran,
It's interesting reading what you are writing about regarding how this person feels 'guilt' regarding a family situation.

I've been reading about clinodactyly (plus delta phalanx and Kirner deformity) in some of my medical books on hands.

The largest group of people who have clinodactyly and it's variations have inherited it via genetics as an autosomal dominant trait. It is also passed on in genes as a combination of factors involved in some syndromes, but most of the time it's just simply a formation that occurs in and of itself via the genetic instructions.

With it being a genetic thing - I would think we would be looking at the family constellation of interactions and behaviors. There are often role reversals or polarities that switch between generations.

Although the discussion is leaning toward what it means because of a finger bending toward another finger and that finger's influence, there is also the fact that most of the time this leaning is caused by one side of the finger literally being shorter than the other. The leaning is a visual effect of this difference in length.

In this sense we are looking at a finger, here the middle (and a little the index) fingers being shorter on the ulnar sides than the radial sides.

mirrzzaa wrote:
Sucom & Kiran,

u both have detailed discussion on this topic and it is very informative and useful for us,and am very happy that i joined this forum,

I have too my Saturn finger which is bending toward the Apollo finger, and Apollo bending toward Saturn, hence both Saturn and Apollo bend toward each other, with Sloppy brain line which end in the middle lunar area, but did not feel myself guilty as Lynn said "people who feel guilty for things that aren't their fault"

its strange the my Jupiter finger is too bending toward Saturn finger.

As Sucom said

Many thanks for posting this. Looking at Jenna’s thoughts, two words in particular stood out from all the rest and these were ‘alone time’. These stood out for me because they are words I personally identify with. Now, someone else reading Jenna’s thoughts might find themselves pulled to the words ‘double standards’ or ‘rebelliousness’ or ‘difficulty in coping with responsibility’.

am agree with Sucom because i like to live "alone time" with myself to discover the secrets of life and universe.

Parender wrote:Hi Mirrzzaa Ji,


This is the “Balance Wheel”. It must not have bent. As a rule, the finger of Saturn is practically never set low; this sign of first phalange bent indicates the properties as of a low-set finger. This bent on sad Saturn finger denotes tendency toward depression. You have a real chip, a weight, extra responsibility on your shoulders. It is possible even a persecution of ‘hidden sorrow’ complex too from relatives that you would not like to share. You need space and alone time to talk with yourself at the same time friends are important for you. You are not fully satisfied or convinced as far as good future is concerned. You fear the unknown. You have sign of genius.Take care to get what you like or you will be forced to like what you get.

By the way my both middle fingers are absolutely straight and have no bent at all and I like even love to pass much of my time alone.

Parender

Parender wrote:Hi Mirrzzaa Ji,

This finger denotes money issues too of course. The Fate Line is taking a weak and unclear shape at present so general satisfaction is somewhat reduced. Now, you cannot say that “Maza aa gaya yehi life hai yar”

If you are not alert you will have to live a more compromised life with relatives and less compatibility with your partner too unless solutions are found to the problems. It is not necessary that she would share all responsibilities with you and on your terms too. You will have to be more careful in choosing your life partner as well as deciding about your career. You must have some hobby or passion to enjoy life at the fullest.

It seems you are not fully satisfied with your career and that you feel bored and losing interest in your present job/work. Money is not flowing easily, though you belong to a good family. This condition must not prevail for unlimited time therefore I wrote- “Take care to get what you like or you will be forced to like what you get.”

You don’t feel guilty. The Index finger bent towards Middle finger shows your attitude like “I want and I will”. Aamin! Allahtala will extend His big hands to help you. Consistency on your part is required. The mole shows fear for the unknown. Be positive, hopeful and do not fear because fear leads to injuries, mistakes and bad decisions.

I am sorry to learn that your father is suffering from Alzheimer since long. I learned at Wikipedia that this is the second leading health concern after cancer. There is no cure for the disease, which worsens as it progresses, and eventually leads to death. This is your sorrow. There are so many people that for one reason or the other are sad. You need personal space but team up with happy persons as you find chances. I wish you happiness and good health.

You have "Lines of Genius" the vertical lines on your nailed phalange of your little finger of communication. It grants you a special ability as an author and speaker with a special message for a large audience. You can write for papers or give speeches. Spread spiritual messages. Good impact of public speaking. Convincing power I mean. You can use it for your own benefits. Enjoy!
Parender