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Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:51 pm

Sebastiaan "Bas" Rutten is a retired Dutch mixed martial artist (MMA) and kickboxer. He was the UFC Heavyweight Champion, and a three time King of Pancrase world champion. After his career as a fighter he has worked as a 'color commentator' in several MMA organizations, and has appeared in numerous television shows, movies, and video games.

How did he become a martial art champ?

In high school, he was physically weak and had eczema on his hands for which he was bullied occasionally. Years later, he attended his high school reunion as a decorated fighter and issued a friendly challenge to fight his former tormentors, which they declined


(Actually, I am not into martial arts at all - and I never heard about the guy, but on television I just heard that Bas Rutten is recognized as a 'legend' in the field of Mixed Martial Arts)


... Notice his very squarisch palms + 'low finger ratio' in his right hand! (Left hand looks normal, but his right hand 2D:4D digit ratio is close to 0.91 - which is rather low for a Dutch man)









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Post  Roberta on Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:31 pm

Martijn,
You write the most interesting articles and this one grabbed me. My son is a martial artist and trains in MMA (he's very familiar with Bas Rutten). I wish to learn about digit ratio that you mentioned. What exactly does it tell and is there a book available on this subject? There's so much to learn in palmistry and I love it. Thanks!
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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Helen on Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:52 pm

Hi Martijin,

How interesting that you wrote an article on Martial Artist. Last year, as part of an experiment and curiosity, I joint a dojo of Japanese martial art "Aikido". I have very well developed Active Mars and Jupiter, so I wanted to know if these qualities would be enough to succeeding in martial arts. What I found actually fascinated the most. Majority of recognized Martial Artist in my dojo have Griddle of Venus and very sensitive palm lines.
Looking at Bas Rutten's hand I also noticed that his lines are more Fire or Air type and not Earth type. He has comparably thin slightly knotted fingers with strong squarish palm. From one side I can say that he has an enormous amount of energy, and Martial Arts is one of the ways to let it out.

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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:59 pm

Hi Helen,

Thank you for your enjoyable comment.

Regarding your question(s):

Yes, I think martial art can directly be related to the mars-negative mount (mars active).

But jupiter is probably not directly involved: actually, I think that the index finger is probably the most feminine finger of all five digits!

You should try to understand this in the perspective of the 'digit ratio': a low ratio requires the index finger to be relatively small, etc.


Regarding the quality of Bas Rutten's hand lines: yes, I agree that he probably has fire-like characteristics. But his primary lines are obviously very strong and visible - which can probably best be described is a typical 'earth' characteristic (certainly not air-like).

But maybe Lynn can share her thoughts about the quality of his lines (I am not much familiar with the elemental type of hand reading).



Just another illustration of Bas Rutten's hands:


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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Lynn on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:22 pm

His lines appear to be fire quality by width.
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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:31 pm

Lynn wrote:His lines appear to be fire quality by width.

Thanks Lynn!!

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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Martijn (admin) on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:33 pm

Roberta wrote:Martijn,
You write the most interesting articles and this one grabbed me. My son is a martial artist and trains in MMA (he's very familiar with Bas Rutten). I wish to learn about digit ratio that you mentioned. What exactly does it tell and is there a book available on this subject? There's so much to learn in palmistry and I love it. Thanks!
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Hello Roberta,

Thank you for your supportive words!


Regarding learning more about 'digit ratio'...

British Professor in Psychology John Manning wrote 2 books about this topic:

- Digit ratio: a pointer to fertility, behavior, and health (Google preview available!)

- The finger book: sex, behaviour and disease revealed in the fingers



I wrote a short review about Manning's 2nd book (1st link); on my website I have a section available with links to some interesting articles (2nd link); and I have a blog available solely devoted to the '2D:4D digit ratio' (3rd link):

http://www.handresearch.com/news/the-finger-book.htm
http://www.handresearch.com/news/digit-ratio.htm
http://fingerlengthdigitratio.wordpress.com/


And please be aware that 'digit ratio' concerns a rather complex topic:

I think Manning's books & studies are fascinating, but I have noticed that quite some people get discouraged for multiple reasons, including: the complexity of both the topic & the measurements, plus the fact that even after knowing your 'digit ratio' it is not easy to draw any specified conclusions from that (especially when people have an average ratio, or a asymmetry difference between both hands, etc).

Roberta, I hope this answer will become useful for you... anyhow!


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Bas Rutten and digit ratio

Post  Roberta on Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:26 pm

Hi Martijn,

You are a sweetie to provide such a wealth of information regarding digit ratio. I'll read all the articles as time permits and also see if Manning's books are available (used) on Amazon..

By the way--- your web site is addictive! :-)

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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Helen on Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:53 pm

Martijin wrote:
But jupiter is probably not directly involved: actually, I think that the index finger is probably the most feminine finger of all five digits

Hi Martijin,
To be honest with you, I thought so too, but after spending 1 year of active practice in Martial Arts, I realized that Jupiter does plays some role. One of the reasons is that Martial Arts, and Japanese in particular are all about leadership. The main idea is to lead an opponent in the direction you need him to go in order to protect yourself. Another interesting aspects is that ideal way of fight is without use of any physical strength. Self esteem, honor and integrity are very common in any Martial Art, so it is not surprising to see longer Jupiter finger on Martial Artist.
I am still in a beginning stage in Palmistry and Martial Arts, but hopefully one day I will be able to give you a better scoop on that topic, with more accurate research
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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:56 pm

Hi Helen,

I am looking forward to see more details on your 'scoop'!!!




PS. A few more thoughts...

I can imagine that the pointer finger is involved as a second factor... added to mars-negative. And the overdeveloped pointer finger could here also make sense in the perspective of a relatively short middle finger (one could then even wonder... is the pointer finger really that long...???).

And I assume your report doesn't implicate that you observed that in martial arts the pointer finger is even longer (and/or stronger) than the ring finger - for I think so far you only mentioned an observation regarding the pointer finger (but in not in perspective with the ring finger).

Correct?


Various studies have pointed out that success in fencing (which concerns another martial art) correlates with a low '2D:4D digit ratio'.



Helen, so far there are various 'digit ratio' studies available related to martial arts:

- Especially fencing has been recognized as a martial art variant where results correlate with low '2D:4D digit ratio', see the following studies:
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a909775472
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0838.2009.01031.x/abstract

- But there is also a Korean study available which suggests that the results for fencing might not be true for other martial arts:
http://journal.biolpsychiatry.or.kr/asp/journal_fulltxt.asp?no=0092010004&m=0


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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Martijn (admin) on Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:59 pm

Roberta wrote:Hi Martijn,

You are a sweetie to provide such a wealth of information regarding digit ratio. I'll read all the articles as time permits and also see if Manning's books are available (used) on Amazon..

By the way--- your web site is addictive! :-)

Many thanks.

Roberta

... Well Roberta, I'll take that as a compliment - thank you!

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Re: Bas Rutten (Netherlands) - multiple 'Mixed Martial Art' worldchampion

Post  Helen on Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:42 pm

Hi Martijin,
To be honest with you I did not pay any attention to Digit Ratio in my observations. You have a good point, and I will start to study it in more detail.
Thank you for your posts and directions.
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