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Post  Felicity Martin on Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:34 pm

Hi Martjin,

I noticed in a posting earlier where an enquiry was based on several lines crossing the head line, that there were several dark red spots on the head line. I have found these in people with petit mal epilepsy, which can result from repeated traumas to the head, say through subcranial bleeds from soccer/ accidents. Which lead me to wonder whether the proximal crease could bear a relationship to the corpus callosum.

I was also wondering about whether it could alternatively represent the division of the limbic system, emotional brain from the cerebral cortex, largely represented by the fingers and area above the heart line.

Is there any research into this? I also acknowledge that various areas of the hand relate also to respective organs so there appears to be overlays to the hand/brain reflective structure. In Mario's case, for instance, there was considerable disassociation of ridge patterns in the liver area etc and a significantly displaced axial triradii, which I have found associated with heart issues. Which is why I recommended him to avoid alcohol.

Have you come across a hand map?

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Re: Hand/brain spacial relationships?

Post  Martijn (admin) on Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:20 pm


Hi Felicity,

Great question!!

In the fields of hand reading such maps are not available - probably because hand reading is traditionally not focussed on identifying medical problems.

But in hand reflexology and Eastern approaches of hand massage various maps are available... however every approach appears to use a different model.

Actually, I think just like in the issue of 'timing the lines of the hand'... there appears to be a different map for every different therapeutic method - which could indicate that NONE of these maps are really reliable.


Therefore I have never recommended anyone to use any of these maps, but just for illustration I will present a few examples below (but there are many other charts with completely different schemes available!!).

NOTICE: Regarding the differences, in the first & second (Korean) examples the spine is displayded at the back of the hand positioned along the middle finger + the palm; while in the third, fourth and fifth (British) example the spine is positioned along the thumb.

But regarding other details: all individual charts tell a different story... for example: only the 2 Korean examples position the eyes on the same location, but in each of the 3 western examples the position of the eyes has a individually different location in the hand.

rolling on the floor Dear Felicity, you tell me... do you think that any of these models is better the others???


>> EXAMPLE 1: Korean hand therapy


>> EXAMPLE 2: Korean hand reflexology



>> EXAMPLE 3: British hand reflexology




>> EXAMPLE 4: British hand reflexology




>> EXAMPLE 5: Another reflexology hand chart


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Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:01 am


lol! ... Another 'curious' example concerns the tip of the thumb:


- IN EXAMPLE 1 + 2 the tip of the thumb represents... the foot!? scratch

- IN EXAMPLE 3 the tip of the thumb represents... the anus!?? Oh...nooo!

- AND IN EXAMPLE 4 + 5 the tip of the thumb represents... the brain!??? confused


So... this kind of implicates that almost the full body can somehow be represented from 'tip to toe' in the tip of the thumb only???


thinking Unlikely?

Anyway, reminds me of the 'Dry Bones' song from: ''The Singing Detective":

"Haleluja... oh hear the word of the Lord!" Thumbs up!




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Post  Felicity Martin on Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:08 am

Hi Martjin,
thank you so much for your response, I think I'll need a year to make any even a remotely informed response! There are many variations as you say within systems. I find perhaps looking at the similarities within each system, a bit like observations of variations of lines the best course.
I was particularly interested in the aspects of the brain reflected in the hand as I feel this is the first layer of the hologram so to speak. I cant help thinking the hand is a complex multilayered image, a bit like in Photoshop where you have multi layers them compress or flatten to get a jpeg. Something like Goethe's unfolding of the skull to give another entirely different object. Or looking from above downwards at the functions of the cerebrum, cerebellum, mid brain, pons, medula oblongata with the consequent roles and functions they govern in both the the physiological and more importantly the psychological and genetic predispositions.
If I sound obtuse it is because it is hard to put into an articulate response. But I was always impressed with the theory of Karl Pribram about the brain/memory acting as a holographic system and I am very interested to look to the hand to somehow make some sense of it.

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Post  Patti on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:15 am

Felicity Martin wrote:Hi Martjin,
thank you so much for your response, I think I'll need a year to make any even a remotely informed response! There are many variations as you say within systems. I find perhaps looking at the similarities within each system, a bit like observations of variations of lines the best course.
I was particularly interested in the aspects of the brain reflected in the hand as I feel this is the first layer of the hologram so to speak. I cant help thinking the hand is a complex multilayered image, a bit like in Photoshop where you have multi layers them compress or flatten to get a jpeg. Something like Goethe's unfolding of the skull to give another entirely different object. Or looking from above downwards at the functions of the cerebrum, cerebellum, mid brain, pons, medula oblongata with the consequent roles and functions they govern in both the the physiological and more importantly the psychological and genetic predispositions.
If I sound obtuse it is because it is hard to put into an articulate response. But I was always impressed with the theory of Karl Pribram about the brain/memory acting as a holographic system and I am very interested to look to the hand to somehow make some sense of it.

Felicity

Hi Felicity!
This is so spooky!!
Just last night I was rereading a few chapters from "In Our Hands" by Arnold Arem, M.D. (a hand surgeon) One of the chapters I read was about holography and it mentioned Karl Pribram. The author was comparing the brain to a hologram. He then went on to discuss how the hand has played a consistent side-by-side role in the development of the brain.

A few of his quotes in this chapter:

"Both the hand and the brain have evolved together, as a unit."

"The hand is really a functional extension of the brain. In fact, the two are inseparable."

"The hand and the brain will progress down the road of advancement "hand in hand", as humanity progresses. From a philosophical point of view, the holographic approach is consistent with deep, perceptive traditions of human experience."
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Post  Felicity Martin on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:36 am

Hi Patti

Though it was way back in the past for me, this school of thought was one of those 'something deep within me resonates with this' moments. Exactly your spooky experience which Karl Pribram and Ken Wilbur raise as a point, we are all connected at some level and our consciousness at a collective level holds together the hologram.

" The days of the cold-hearted, hard headed technocrat appear to be numbered.
Pribram suggests that there is no such thing as a metaphor - or, in a sense, all is metaphor. "Everything is isomorphic" As above, so below. We may now be experiencing the effects of a social hologram, a pattern of interconnectedness of individuals. Synchronicity, meaningful co-incidence, makes sense in a holographic universe."

From an old favorite of mine The Holographic Paradigm, Shambala Press... Edited by Ken Wilbur, where quantum chemistry , physics and psychology combine to produce some great postulates. And also you may find William Tiller and psycho-energetics fascinating.
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Re: Hand/brain spacial relationships?

Post  sv-b on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:48 am

Hello felicity, Smile

Great initiation! I see here that you try to associate and mapping out the anatomy , physiology , psychology and pathology in the palm and presenting your ideas and experiences by associating the defective head lines with brain disorders. However, we should admit here that the progressive development of anatomical relationship with psychological theories are limited, uncertain, and evidentless. The major portion of psychological activity of the brain remain unknown and most of the psycho-analysts land up with theories and speculation rather than mapping out the brain centers with their theories. For example, Amyglada and limbic system are said to be the center of emotion. neo-cortex and pre-frontal cortex, and it's marked developments are only found in humans, but not in animals, as being a centers which are responsible for cognitive and intellectual functions. Hence, mind and it's various psychological components of the brains have been observed by psychoanalysts as a collective part and they mark them at widely varying areas of brain.

secondly, Being a center of emotions , limbic system and amyglada should be mapped out in heart line instead of head line in my opinion. However, I think that we can neither diagnose nor doubt about diseases only reading the defective head and heart line , specially psychological and nervous disorder cases like convulsion, paralysis etc., Because, we see peoples with good orientation who have defective lines in their palm. For sure, i have seen good major and minor lines in the palms of chronic schzophrenics , On the other hand we see emotionally disturbed , depressed peoples who have messed up lines in their palms. So, This attempts of making hologram inevitably give wrong detail unless we expertise the dualism philosophy, astrology, and spirituality.

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Post  Martijn (admin) on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:52 pm




... by the way, we have another discussion running about the potential connection of the fingerprints/dermatoglyphics & the brain lobes, see:
The DMIT dermatoglyphics multiple intelligence test


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