Any Body Can Give Any Answer For This (length life line)

parkash on Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:26 am

hi guyz

i am parkash from india and i am Student of MBA and also interested in palmistry since 16 years old....

i have a question about the length of life line and persons life span............
ok hear i want to show a picture of michel jackson he died at 50.............

if we take a look about his life line so we can see the shot life line witch i think shows the short life span of his life..........................

again if we see a picture of x prime minister of pakistan benazir bhoto pics so we can see again shot life line and short life span she died at 54

if we read both persons hand then we can recognized that the life line is tied the length of life coz both person's have short life line and both have died at earlier or mid as their life line told..........?

my question is that y modern palmist not believed that length of life line is not tied the length of line............? while if we see the both person pics so we can understand about persons life span...........

any body can give the comments and prove that the length of life line is not tied the length of life after seeing these 2 pictures.......

Thanks to all
Parkash
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**Martijn (admin)** on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:01 am

Hello parkash,

First of all, welcome at this forum!!

Second, I am wondering:

Why did you conclude that Michael Jackson + Benazir Bhutto have short life lines...???

Sorry, but I think the length of both life lines can actually be described as... quite normal!! (See the 2 pictures below)

So from my point of view, this implicates that their rather early death can not be 'explained' by the length of their life line.

By the way, last year I wrote a comprehensive article about the 'notorious' life line theory... featured with the results of 2 studies:
http://www.handresearch.com/news/cheiro-line-of-life-longevity-research-life-line-lifeline.htm

I think this article answers your final question:

"Any body can give the comments and prove that the length of life line is not tied the length of life after seeing these 2 pictures......."

I hope I have answered all your questions!?

The hands of Benazir Bhutto (1st) & Michael Jackson (2nd):

parkash on Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:37 am

hello martijin you dont think so that the life line of michel jackson reveal the length of life.............. even v can see that the life line of him at 50 have broken witch shows about his death........?
but the michel life line is short may be i cant see clearer if i am wrong so where i am wrong..........?

if we take a look at benazir pic again we can see the broken or crash life line(see point number "8") at the age of 54 witch shows death of her.............?

my last question is that you have seen almost thousands of hands............
have you ever seen any any old man with the short life line in both hands..........?

Thanks
parkash
waiting for sufficient answer or statment.....

**Martijn (admin)** on Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:23 am

Hello Parkash,

Sorry, I think it is appropriate to repeat my earlier comment again: I observe that the life line of Michael Jackson and Benazir Bhutto is 'long' (or at least within the range of 'normal').

For example, the picture below is a zoom-in on another photo of Michael Jackson's hand cast of his right hand, which quite clearly demonstrates that his life line is actually... 'long'!

... So, I think you are wrong by describing his life line as 'short'; and yes indeed: I think there is NO connection between the length of Michael Jackson's life line and his age of death.

PS. The original picture is available here: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_udpZE-Na2UQ/RhvvwWW9RSI/AAAAAAAAArg/uETMiY1fP28/SV200585.JPG

parkash on Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:44 am

ok thanks
martijin if i am not you mean to say that the part whare his life line seems broken(at the age of about 50) is actually the seems due to bad print...? ok if you say so i accepted......

and what about the "8" point (whare her life line shows broken life line at the age of 54) of benazir bhoto life line and heart line......?
can you clear this point.........?

and still you didnot give me the answer tht i asked you is have you ever seen old man with the short life line in both hands.....?

i dont know why all the modern palmist of this forum cannot comments about my questions.......?
is the meaning of that thay dont have any answer of my question lol!

Thanks
Parkash

**Lynn** on Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:02 pm

hi Parkash,
have you read this research about longevity & lifeline...

http://www.handresearch.com/news/cheiro-line-of-life-longevity-research-life-line-lifeline.htm#results-lifeline

**Martijn (admin)** on Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:45 pm

parkash wrote:hello martijin you dont think so that the life line of michel jackson reveal the length of life.............. even v can see that the life line of him at 50 have broken witch shows about his death........?
but the michel life line is short may be i cant see clearer if i am wrong so where i am wrong..........?

if we take a look at benazir pic again we can see the broken or crash life line(see point number "8") at the age of 54 witch shows death of her.............?

my last question is that you have seen almost thousands of hands............
have you ever seen any any old man with the short life line in both hands..........?

Thanks
parkash
waiting for sufficient answer or statment.....

Hello again Parkash!

Thank you for you new efforts to discussed the details.

Yes, I think there is no correlation between Michael Jackson's age of death... and the length of his life line (it is actually quite long, certainly not below average), nor any other characteristics of his life line. For, I think that the last photo shows that there is no real 'break' at all.

Regarding Benazir Bhutto's life line... also in this example the length is perfectly normal. And regarding the line which transverses the life line, I am aware of the (fatalistic) theories about that characteristic - but I think this theory has an element of a 'self-full filling prophecy'... simply because WHEN such a line transverses the life line, it will always be in the lower part of the life line.

So, I think one really needs to consider the exact details in those cases - for example by providing a detailed analysis of what exactly is going on in a hand.

But from one case one can not draw any conclusions about the theory.

PS. In the recent past I have been confronted with other people who had the same wondering about that characteristic, but I think if one starts dealing with the details... then one will likely conclude that there is no link between that characteristic and Benazir's age of death, etc.

And regarding your third question...

Yes, I have seen those examples. For example, I have an aunt who really has very short life lines in both hands (much, much shorter than M.J. & B.B.)... but she has passed the age of 67.

Parkash, I hope I have now answered all your questions!?

Anyway, greetings from The Netherlands!! Thumbs up!

**Martijn (admin)** on Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:24 pm

Dear Parkash... on top of my 'aunt' example, I can add that in my article that was introduced earlier in this discussion by Lynn - the 2 studies mentioned in the article present data which suggests that some of the people who definitely belonged to the category 'short life line'... died at an age of 75 or even higher.

So, from my point of view the data of both studies illustrates that my aunt is very likely not a very unusual case at all - probably because (despite the significant correlation described by the first study) there is no direct link between length of life line & age of death.

Illustration from the 2nd study mentioned in my article:
http://www.handresearch.com/news/cheiro-line-of-life-longevity-research-life-line-lifeline.htm

parkash on Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:31 am

ok the graphically pretension witch you shown me is actually have only left hand life line data or length of life line include both hands,,,,,?

thanks
parkash Please?

and can u tell me about the subject of red dot exactlly witch part (age) have broken in them life line ?

**Lynn** on Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:44 pm

parkash wrote:and still you didnot give me the answer tht i asked you is have you ever seen old man with the short life line in both hands.....?

I haven't seen enough hands of elderly people to comment. only anecdotal 'evidence' - my friend's aunt's lifeline was around 1/3rd of potential full length. she lived to 93 or 96.

parkash on Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:59 pm

hi lynn

i appreciate your comments and you also but have you ever seen in your eyes or any old person who have come and show you the hands of him and you seen short life line in his both hands...........?

question is very simple have you ever seen in your eyes any old man with the short life line in both hands......

Thanks
Parkash

**Lynn** on Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:46 pm

hi Parkash, I think I already answered your question? Martijn & I each gave you an example - his aunt & my friend's aunt. I don't have her hand prints so I can't prove it to you.

**Martijn (admin)** on Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:51 am

parkash wrote:ok the graphically pretension witch you shown me is actually have only left hand life line data or length of life line include both hands,,,,,?

thanks
parkash

and can u tell me about the subject of red dot exactlly witch part (age) have broken in them life line ?

Hello Parkash,

Yes, you're right... the picture that I presented only includes the data from the left hand (the researchers of the 1974 study presented only a visual impression for the left hand - but the results were not better for the right hand).

No, I have no additional info available about the subjects with a 'broken life line' (notice: they do not only concern the red dots, also the half of the subjects with the yellow dots!).

PS. I completely understand Lynn's response: it's a bit strange to notice that after Lynn and I mentioned that we both have seen a short life line in an old female (actually, I do have both handprints of my aunt)... you simply repeated your question, or do you really want us to mention an example for an old MALE as well???

Anway - parkash, I do appreciate your efforts to discuss the details about this 'classic' topic! Thumbs up!

parkash on Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14 am

i have apriciat both of you accutlly

just supose i ill tell you that i have seen my grand father or grand mother hands and i have told him/her that he ill die at the age of x and month of x .....and he/she die exect as i predict him/her..... so are you beleive in my story...? obviously not....?
you ill ask me ok give me any physical and solid evedence about it because its not possible....? other words you ill tell me ok show me some example of your predictions actully then i ill accept tht ok you are a solid palmist....... Thumbs up!

i think you got my point?

my point is that if you can give me any man's hands print or any solid evedence about this matter so i ill rubb my name in the tradditional palmistry and mentione my name into moderne palmist.......

thanks
parkash

**Lynn** on Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:37 am

parkash wrote:i have apriciat both of you accutlly

just supose i ill tell you that i have seen my grand father or grand mother hands and i have told him/her that he ill die at the age of x and month of x .....and he/she die exect as i predict him/her..... so are you beleive in my story...? obviously not....?
you ill ask me ok give me any physical and solid evedence about it because its not possible....? other words you ill tell me ok show me some example of your predictions actully then i ill accept tht ok you are a solid palmist.......
i think you got my point?

Thanks Parkash, I understand what you are saying. I would believe your story. To be correct about the exact month is amazing! How did you do that, was it something on the hand or some intution about the month? I don't think we said "It's not possible", rather - it's not accurate for everyone, in every hand.

Predicting someone's death is of course a major responsibility!! We could terrify the person. How can we be sure we are accurate? If we are wrong, then we have caused unecessary fear. If we are correct, would someone really benefit from knowing this information? Then there's always the question of 'self-fulfiling prophecy', even the possibility of 'coincidence'. Also we need to know not just the times when a prediction worked, but also when it didn't - things have to work over and over again before we can be sure of our interpretations & be confident that it is accurate. Personally, I would never predict age of death. (tho when I first learnt palmistry, I confess I used to say things like - 'you have a long lifeline which means a long life' Embarassed

, but over the years have changed my ways of reading.).

There is a parallel discussion about the same topic on Patti's forum. Patti tells a very interesting example there.
http://palmistry.iforums.us/regarding-the-life-line-vt192.html?highlight=

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